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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [colegar] by carolinabob
Nov 23, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: colegar (Nov 22, 2008 1:48 pm)

Thanks for the update. Did you get your Genesis in Greenville, Anderson or Spartanburg or elesewhere? I live in the Upstate area and drive an 07 Azera. Based on my experiences with my Azera and the reports in C&D and Automobile re: the Genesis suspension, I am a little cautious about getting a Genesis right now. Am still impressed with the car overall, but waiting a bit longer. Also, I think they need to add more 4.6 features to the 3.8, maybe as another package above Premium.
A lot of people are counting on your honest reports.
I noticed a decline in the MPG on my car when BP went to ethanol, but since I get a 5% discount can't change to another brand. Regardless, thanks to corn lobby and Congress, all gas will contain 10% ethanol in next year or two.
  On another track, wonder what would happen if Hyundai purchased Chrysler, kept Jeep, downsized Dodge to trucks only and changed Genesis to Chrysler Imperial or just Imperial and maybe Azera as a New Yorker? Of course, they would need to fire current management and close some US plants.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [carolinabob] by backy
Nov 23, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 23, 2008 1:29 pm)

Hyundai has worked very hard over the past few years to build a reputation for quality and reliability. Putting old Chrysler names on its cars like the Genesis and Azera would be a giant step backwards, IMO. I think Hyundai can find better use for its money than to try to salvage Chrysler. Besides, Genesis is a lot cooler name than Imperial or New Yorker. Those names conjure up a 70-year-old retired man or woman cruising over to the doctor's office or mall. Also, Hyundai would have to add a vinyl coach roof to the cars if they had those old Chrysler names.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [backy] by sandy25
Nov 23, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 23, 2008 3:00 pm)

Oh, oh! As a 73 year old retired man, I hope being seen driving my new Genesis won't screw up the brand's image. Anyway, I drive more to the Motorcyle dealer for accessories than to the Doctor.(so far). But I do agree with backy...those old Chrysler names are tired and have little positive appeal to today's customers. I retired after 30 plus years at a top 5 Mad Ave ad agency. The amounts of money required to build a brand name are enormous and the fewer you have to support, the more effective you will be, That is probably one of the major reasons GM is in so much, trouble...trying to market 8 or 9 different major bfrands.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [sandy25] by houdini1
Nov 23, 2008 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: sandy25 (Nov 23, 2008 5:28 pm)

I don't own a Genesis but I like them a lot. Most of the ones I have seen are driven by older guys like us (66, almost). I think we are smart enough to recognize the value. And, of course, the appeal to the ladies !!
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [carolinabob] by joe97
Nov 23, 2008 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 23, 2008 1:29 pm)

Hyundai has said it's not interested in Chrysler. If for some miracle, Hyundai did purchase Chrysler (and the Jeep brand would be the only reason, maybe Viper or SRT tech.), changing the Genesis name? Well, you are crazy
 
Anyway, back to the Genesis, it seems that you bring up the suspension issue C/D raised in every single of your post? In my experience and those who I have talked to, the suspension isn't really that much of an issue. Yes, the suspension isn't going to challenge a BMW, for example, but for the purpose of a luxury car, the Genesis offers an extremely comfortable ride - around the town, on the highway, and through the back roads (aka everyday driving). Compare to a BMW, the Genesis will feel softer, less firm and controlled but that just makes the Genesis having different driving dynamics, not inferior.
 
Is the Genesis perfect? Far from it (same goes for pretty much every single vehicle out there). There are room for improvements, no doubt, but considering this is Hyundai's first effort in a true luxury car in North America, and taking into account the product and the goods the car offers, Hyundai has every right to be proud of its product and the Genesis deserves the praises from the industry to the consumers. The Genesis has already and will continue to improve Hyundai as we know it.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [joe97] by carolinabob
Nov 24, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 23, 2008 9:43 pm)

Rather be crazy than stupid.
Guess it would be better for US taxpayers to buy Chrysler and watch it crash.
Regardless, just trying to make sure each new user who comes to this site is aware that two teams of PROFESSIONALS have criticized the car and that this should be taken into consideration before purchasing.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [carolinabob] by allmet33
Nov 24, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 24, 2008 5:44 am)

Hey Bob...have you seen the Genesis Test Drive special that has shown on the Speed Channel? Very, very intersting.
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Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. by carolinabob
Nov 24, 2008 (8:47 am)
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Last year, I wrote to Lexus and told them why I did not purchase one of their cars. Within 2-3 weeks, they called me and we had a nice chat about what I would like to see on their cars. They also sent me brochures on the LS and GS models.
   I have also communicated with other manufacturers and been cordially treated.
       But, NOT Hyundai!
   08/26 sent a letter to CEO with what I would like to see on the Genesis. Most suggestions were things on the Azera, but not on the Genesis and moving some features from the 4.6 to another package on the 3.8.
   09/05 letter stamped received in President's office.
   10/02 letter stamped received in Consumer Affairs Dept.
   11/21 letter stamped received in Legal Dept.
   11/21 letter returned to me with a cover letter from assistant general counsel.
 
      Their letter states: "As a matter of course, all correspondence received by HMA containing suggestions for design changes, new products, marketing strategies, advertising slogans or the like, is forwarded to the Legal Department for reply. Please be advised that it is against the policy of HMA to accept unsolicited ideas from persons outside the Hyundai organization. In accordance with this policy, we are returning your correspondence with this letter. Please consider this letter as HMA's response to your August 26, 2008 correspondence."
 
      This is why Hyundai will not suceed as a luxury car manufacturer and will ultimately have problems becoming a major factor in the American market.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [allmet33] by carolinabob
Nov 24, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 7:07 am)

Nope, missed it and cannot get it to come up on their website. Appears they showed it three times and that is it?

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