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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 20, 2008 2:37 pm) Before Toyota dropped the Avalon on us, they had established themselves as a dependable car maker. Hyundai has improved greatly and nobody wants to give them the respect that's due them. All you want to keep saying is, "But it's a Hyundai!" You are right, for Hyundai to no longer be among the dregs of the auto society is to be celebrated...considering they were one time the door mat and butt of all auto jokes. Who says that Hyundai doesn't have loftier goals? Are you in their front office making decisions? Just because you and a few other believe it should be one way, that doesn't mean it MUST be that way. Like I've said and I'll say it again, Hyundai is breaking the mold of what an automaker is supposed to be. I truly love the fact that it ruffles the feather of the likes of you and anyone else that can't get over the fact that Hyundai is doing what they are doing. Hyundai is far from average which is why they are now ranked #5 among all automakers. Sorry Charlie, you don't get that high being average. 
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Replying to: stephen987 (Nov 20, 2008 2:44 pm) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 21, 2008 11:36 am) Dude...get over yourself and just accept the fact that it has happened and there's nothing you can do about it. Instead of complaining about it and tryin to make an arguement from every possible angle as to why it shouldn't be, just accept that it is. The most you can do, is just not buy a Hyundai that costs upwards of $30K. 
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Replying to: richard124 (Nov 20, 2008 10:57 am)
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Replying to: skylab (Nov 21, 2008 12:33 pm)
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Drove one with Tech and I liked the rear view camera and Lexicon sound systems. Only issue was that the suspension was soft. I will wait for the Coupe and keep test driving. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 20, 2008 12:42 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 21, 2008 2:10 pm) |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 21, 2008 2:10 pm) Good for the buyers, bad for Hyundai.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 21, 2008 12:40 pm) The price increase may not be all fluff. I was told, before the Genesis hit the ground, the there was a price hike in the pipe. As for the $2k, I can't speak to the amount, just that I was told that it was coming in some variety. Shouldn't be that much of a shocker though. Most cars get a price hike after they have been on the ground for a while. Where do you think the money for the rebates comes from? I remember when a GLS V6 Santa Fe stickered for $19k. Now they are $23k, but lo and behold, there is a $2500 rebate, and $1000 side dealer cash!! Same price, you just have to give out the "deal" to keep sales going. As to resale value, I think that a number of people are missing a big factor here. This isn't about what percentage value the car holds, it's about the amount that it cost you to drive!! If a LS 460 is say, $70,000 new, I would say that one should look at the value 5 years out. My Black Book says that a 2003 LS 430 is worth around $15000-$16000 trade-in (real money, not "allowance"), now that looks like $54000-$55000 to drive for 5 years. Even if you went over book, and went to $20k, it still cost $50k to drive for 5 years. My point is that the Genesis will have a positive value of some amount in 5 years, and with that in mind, you can drive for less than $40k (or $30k, whatever)in that 5 years. Seems like that makes the DEPRECIATION amount less on the Genesis than one of the most highly regarded vehicles on the road. Just because an Accent is $15k and is worth $3k in five years does not mean that you lost MORE money on it than you would, say an Accord or a Camry, or a Corolla (insert your car where you like). The percentages look terrible on the cheaper cars due to each dollar being worth more, but folks, I can buy bread with dollars, not percentage signs!!! As to the comment about people looking for a "quality" car not looking at Hyundai, I ask, "huh?". People should seriously get in the auto that Hyundai is now putting out. Most every offering is on par with, or better than the equivalent offerings from Toyota and Honda. Find me something about the Genesis that is not up to the Japenese offerings. Also, take a look at the Veracruz and tell me why this unit is "beneath" a Toyota. When you read the reviews of that vehicle, most all have been nothing but glowing. Now, I agree that sales are awful, but that does not change the fact that the vehicles themselves are solid. Lets go start another thread where we make baseless accusations about Honda or Toyota or Nissan and see how much fun that will be. By the way Nissan is just a new name for Datsun. Remember all of those awe inspiring Datsun's? Man, that must mean that Nissan's are all garbage, right? Please. One last thing. There are dealers taking M-B, Lexus, and BMW cars in on this unit. Hate to burst bubbles around here, but there are rumors of people buying these high end cars just to say that they have one. Some of those people are realizing that when they get one, (wait for it) it's still a car!! It's not God's chariot. I have personally taken Audi, BMW, and Lexus models in on trade at my store for Hyundai's not named Genesis, so why would a top shelf model that is winning several journalist awards not get legit consideration from the top end clients? By the way I had a M-B in here last week trying to trade for a Veracruz. $14k in the tub. Hard to work with that these days. Also, our first Genesis sale was to a previous E-class owner. Guess the world works differently when you get out of SoCal...................................................
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