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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 20, 2008 7:15 am) that's just it - in an absolute hardware for the dollar perspective - the Genesis is underpriced as most Hyundai offerings are. From a perception standpoint and relative to where it is sold it is overpriced. If you think about it there are very very few manufacturers that can successfully sell a $40k car alongside a $10k one. Thinking about that a little further some of those 'Japanese' brands may be the only ones to successfully pull that off - and they had to come up with new brands (and dealers) to do it.
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 20, 2008 8:00 am) #1) Bottom line...what you get for your dollar in the Genesis is truly hard to beat. It has clearly been proven that you would have to pay $10K or more to get the very same things the Genesis offers in comparison to the premium sedans. Granted, you can't put a price on luxury sentiment, but we're talking tangibles. #2) Volkswagen is doing the very thing you claim can't be done. Rabbits sell for around $15K and the Toureg 2 in V8 form sells for almost $50K. The Sonata tops out around $25K, the Azera tops out around $30K and you can get into a base Genesis for $33K and fully loaded for just under $40K. I bet you would just love it if the Genesis were sold for the same price as the Azera, huh?  With the progressions Hyundai has made, why do you continually believe that they are unable to "do it"???
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Replying to: mitchellrowe (Nov 19, 2008 10:26 pm) mitchell rowe" The V6 and V8 in every configuration?
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Replying to: tjn007 (Nov 20, 2008 10:11 am) mitchell rowe" The V6 and V8 in every configuration? Hmmmm? The Korean won has lost 40% of its value against the US dollar since July and Hyundai is going to raise prices? The won is at its lowest point in fourteen years. Perhaps they will raise prices in the Korean won but I think it's unlikely they will raise prices in US dollars. More likely the price will drop in US dollars. I'm not saying anything negative about this car I own one. It is absolutley the best car I have ever had at any price but I think it likely the price will come down in January not up. Most likely some dealer is blowing smoke, trying to pressure you into buying now.
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Replying to: tjn007 (Nov 19, 2008 10:04 am) Let's be real and recognize that Americans like brand names - we like Coach, Gucci, Mercedes-- it doesn't have much to do with quality or logic, it's the emotion of elitism. Had Hyundai changed the name, they would have had a contender. Short of that, noone - and I mean NOONE is going to trade in a Mercedes for a Hyundai. If anyone has done that please speak up.
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Replying to: raycharles1 (Nov 20, 2008 11:12 am) You are right about one thing, many Americans are stuck on brand names, but with the economic status of our country...a good many are starting to re-think things. Hyundai doesn't have to change, it's already a contender. You have obviously chosen the right screen name because you're so blind you can't see it. One thing I've learned in life...never say never. |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 20, 2008 8:13 am) If you want to use VW as your example, then, let's not talk about a cheap car and an upmarket SUV (notice that I don't call it a 'luxury' SUV) , but a cheap car and a very expensive one that was a miserable failure. I don't really know what 'progressions' you are talking about, unless it is simply that they have shown the capacity to make a whole bunch of different types of vehicles. In next month's CR listing of their 'most reliable' cars, 40 out of 47 are 'Japanese' and the only Hyundai model to even make the list - the Elantra. While no Hyundai models appeared on the 'worst' list' either, the only progress I see from a reliability standpoint is that they aren't as bad as they once were - years ago - but still little to change that unfortunate 'disposable car' reputation.
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 20, 2008 12:42 pm) EXACTLY!!! Why not use VW...the Rabbit was always known as cheap transportation, it just wasn't as disposable as an Escort or Excel. The point of your statement was that a company can't sell a cheap car AND a car costing $40K, but lo & behold...not one, but TWO companies have and are doing it. The fact that Hyundai isn't as bad as it used to be is the progress that needs to be seen. The fact that you don't see any of the models on the worst list is a huge statement...considering we are talking about Hyundai. Not to mention that Hyundai/Kia is the 5th ranked automaker in the world. Anyway, back to the topic at hand...the debate should just stop at the fact that you and others seemingly have a problem with a $40K Hyundai. It's as simple as that. It's not about what it should be or what it isn't or what some think it pretends to be. It's the fact that Hyundai has a $40K car. Get over it, if you don't like it...then don't get one, but don't sit there and say that this can't happen or that shouldn't happen...bottom line, it's happening!!! |
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 20, 2008 12:42 pm) I think you should stop now... its no point I think allmet works for Genesis... else I adore his passion. There can be nothing wrong with Genesis... even after seeing a banged up genesis in which airbags did not deploy he has this to say (post no 3633 above) We know what the article says, but we don't know if the details are correct. For all we know, the photographer just walked up and saw the Genesis Coupe all crashed up and went from there, he/she may have never spoken to the actual driver to know if he/she was an owner or someone test driving for the company or what. For those who understand no explanation is needed For those who dont understand no explanation is possible
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Nov 20, 2008 1:42 pm) So what...a picture was posted of ONE Genesis coupe banged up against a light pole and the air bags didn't deploy...what is that supposed to mean? Trust me, I've seen a few accidents in the DC area where cars have run into the backs of other cars and you don't see an air bag deployed and yet...the front end is pushed back significantly. If someone snapped a picture of you drunk out of your mind, passed out with vomit all around you...are we to assume you're an alcoholic? Could have been a one time situation that you simply had too much to drink. The point is...why feed into it when it's a limited instance. Now if we start seeing pictures popping up all the time with this problem...I think more heed should be paid, yes? The Genesis isn't the perfect car, but it's the perfect car for Hyundai in that it's the feather in their cap that can bring them a level of respectability they have yet to enjoy. No, it won't happen overnight because the Genesis still has to prove that it is worthy of the accolades that are potentially waiting for it. Hey, it's even possible that the Genesis doesn't live up to it's potential. Bottom line is Hyundai has created a car that a great many didn't think it could and that in itself speaks volumes for the company. 
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