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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [mitchellrowe] by dean3927
Nov 19, 2008 (11:01 pm)
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Replying to: mitchellrowe (Nov 19, 2008 10:39 pm)

Hi Mitchell:
 
I have been following the Genesis for 2 years now, and if the V8 had an 8-speed tranny, those guys who already bought a model will be crying and suing as they were looking for the 2 missing gears. As the article I posted states, the 8-speed is coming in the future.
The Genesis V8 currently has the ZF 6-speed transmission with a 3.133:1 final drive ratio:
 
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/library/Hynd_BH_WebSpecs07.pdf
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [dean3927] by joshuag
Nov 20, 2008 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: dean3927 (Nov 19, 2008 11:01 pm)

Some people, not a lot, but some have said that the Genesis is overpriced. In a recent Car and Driver article they tested the Genesis against the 5-series BMW, Chrysler 300c, and the Toyota Avalon. Of course they liked the BMW better because of it's sportier handling. But hands down, they liked it better than the Chrysler, and they liked it even better than the Avalon. My brother own a Avalon limited and has never liked Hyundai's, but has absolutely fallen in love with the Genesis. The article said that for around the same money as a XLS Avalon you could get the Genesis, and they seemed to think it would be a better buy and I think so too.
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [joshuag] by allmet33
Nov 20, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 20, 2008 3:03 am)

I really wouldn't feed into that whole notion of folks thinking the Genesis is overpriced. The majority that think like that simply want it to be cheaper because of the fact it's a Hyundai. Also, they wan't one badly, but they don't have the backbone to stand up to family and friends and justify why they spent almost $40K on a Hyundai.
 
Considering the car has been directly compared to the Lexus GS and it was basically said that the Genesis offered ALMOST everything (gadget for gadget, option for option & feature for feature) as the GS at a considerable savings, and yet nobody is crying about the GS being overpriced.
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Aftermarket Bliss by allmet33
Nov 20, 2008 (7:57 am)
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Seems like aftermarket tuner companies are taking a liking to the Genesis. First DUB creates two slick rides for the SEMA show and now this...
 

 
Rides Magazine creates custom Hyundai Genesis for SEMA
 
I picked up the latest Rides magazine and saw the article on this...SWEET!!!
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [allmet33] by captain2
Nov 20, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 20, 2008 7:15 am)

that whole notion of folks thinking the Genesis is overpriced.
that's just it - in an absolute hardware for the dollar perspective - the Genesis is underpriced as most Hyundai offerings are. From a perception standpoint and relative to where it is sold it is overpriced.
If you think about it there are very very few manufacturers that can successfully sell a $40k car alongside a $10k one. Thinking about that a little further some of those 'Japanese' brands may be the only ones to successfully pull that off - and they had to come up with new brands (and dealers) to do it.
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [captain2] by allmet33
Nov 20, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 20, 2008 8:00 am)

Captain, once again your points fall short.
 
#1) Bottom line...what you get for your dollar in the Genesis is truly hard to beat. It has clearly been proven that you would have to pay $10K or more to get the very same things the Genesis offers in comparison to the premium sedans. Granted, you can't put a price on luxury sentiment, but we're talking tangibles.
 
#2) Volkswagen is doing the very thing you claim can't be done. Rabbits sell for around $15K and the Toureg 2 in V8 form sells for almost $50K. The Sonata tops out around $25K, the Azera tops out around $30K and you can get into a base Genesis for $33K and fully loaded for just under $40K. I bet you would just love it if the Genesis were sold for the same price as the Azera, huh?
 
With the progressions Hyundai has made, why do you continually believe that they are unable to "do it"???
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Re: What to buy, when. [mitchellrowe] by tjn007
Nov 20, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: mitchellrowe (Nov 19, 2008 10:26 pm)

"hurry up , the price is going up in $ 2000 increnments starting jan 3 , 2009 .
mitchell rowe"
 
The V6 and V8 in every configuration?
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Re: What to buy, when. [tjn007] by richard124
Nov 20, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: tjn007 (Nov 20, 2008 10:11 am)

"hurry up , the price is going up in $ 2000 increnments starting jan 3 , 2009 .
mitchell rowe"
  
The V6 and V8 in every configuration?
 
Hmmmm? The Korean won has lost 40% of its value against the US dollar since July and Hyundai is going to raise prices? The won is at its lowest point in fourteen years. Perhaps they will raise prices in the Korean won but I think it's unlikely they will raise prices in US dollars. More likely the price will drop in US dollars.
 
I'm not saying anything negative about this car I own one. It is absolutley the best car I have ever had at any price but I think it likely the price will come down in January not up.
 
Most likely some dealer is blowing smoke, trying to pressure you into buying now.
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Re: Yeah but it's a Hyundai [tjn007] by raycharles1
Nov 20, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: tjn007 (Nov 19, 2008 10:04 am)

My point is clear and obvious, they should have changed the name. If they had re-badged it, it wouldnt be embarassing to drive.
 
Let's be real and recognize that Americans like brand names - we like Coach, Gucci, Mercedes-- it doesn't have much to do with quality or logic, it's the emotion of elitism.
 
Had Hyundai changed the name, they would have had a contender. Short of that, noone - and I mean NOONE is going to trade in a Mercedes for a Hyundai. If anyone has done that please speak up.
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Re: Yeah but it's a Hyundai [raycharles1] by allmet33
Nov 20, 2008 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: raycharles1 (Nov 20, 2008 11:12 am)

Obviously you haven't been in a Genesis of any trim level. It's hardly embarassing to drive.
 
You are right about one thing, many Americans are stuck on brand names, but with the economic status of our country...a good many are starting to re-think things.
 
Hyundai doesn't have to change, it's already a contender. You have obviously chosen the right screen name because you're so blind you can't see it. One thing I've learned in life...never say never.

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