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Re: What to buy, when. [carguyay] by mitchellrowe
Nov 19, 2008 (10:26 pm)
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Replying to: carguyay (Nov 19, 2008 8:55 pm)

mr. carguyay : hello and happy thanksgiving . the spelling of your name is quite unique . it contours to look like it means ... " car guy , from uraguay , has to look , but with one eye . " is that you ?
nah ... i doubt it ...
any way :
here is some stuff you knew anyway . .... you can't replace the ls 430 , unless you buy used . THE ES 350 IS A BACKBREAKER FOR ME ... AND ALOT OF FOLKS I KNOW . the drivers seat feels good until a G force pins the lower back on some cheap camry construction coils wrapped around the hot seat wires . junk .
---- the 6 cyl. genisus is plenty . there is DOUBLE pane glass in that vehicle ( exactly like a s 550 mercedes ) ... you can't hear nothing , unless your hearing aid is cranked up full and the window is open . IT'S ONE OF THE QUIETEST VEHICLES MADE . the genisus has DUNLAP D 5000 v rated tires ... the exact tires that cme on your LS 430 when it was new ( retail about $ 225 us a tire ) ,made in japland . i drove the genisis at 138 mph at dover downs for an hour straight , andf the vehicle wanted more punishment .... it was begging me . the six has a 6 speed jap xmission , and the 8 has a zf nazi xmisssion . the 6 speed jap has less chance of failure . the zf responfds to very little . it is programmed to shift when IT decides . it doesn't know from "fuzzy logic" . the 6 speed ( 6 cyl ) jap xmission can decide between yes and no on an up or doenshift , as it has jap fuzzy logic , and can distinguish that it does not have to think in only 1 or 2 ... it has a maybe also .
agreed the specs are close on the genisis to the LS 430 .... but the genisis beats the LS to smitherines . ... the genisis has the electric motor power steering like the LS 460 (L ) , the LS 430 is still hydraulic fluid . THE ENGINE IS QUIET on regular fuel , unless the dot head who sold you the gasoline puts 20 % water in his tank at 3 in the morning , to rip the guts out of his host country citizens .
IF YOU ARE A SERIOUS BUYER ... buy the genisis . Lexus is $ 75 k with a levinson radio , and i have had one '07 and two '08's , and they are good until break in at 2000 miles , then go doenhill and burn gas .
enjoyed talking to you ... best of luck in your new genisis ... hurry up , the price is going up in $ 2000 increnments starting jan 3 , 2009 .
mitchell rowe
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Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan by dean3927
Nov 19, 2008 (10:26 pm)
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http://www.nextautos.com/hyundai-working-on-eight-speed-transmission-genesis-sed- an
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [dean3927] by mitchellrowe
Nov 19, 2008 (10:39 pm)
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Replying to: dean3927 (Nov 19, 2008 10:26 pm)

hello dean : the genisis is an 8 speed zf tranny on the V8 right now .
the ZF is built in germany .
the 3.8 six has the 6 speed japanese box .
please go on the genisis website , and see the specs , or stop at a dealer and glance at the monroney sticker .
happy thanksgiving
mitchell rowe
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [mitchellrowe] by dean3927
Nov 19, 2008 (11:01 pm)
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Replying to: mitchellrowe (Nov 19, 2008 10:39 pm)

Hi Mitchell:
 
I have been following the Genesis for 2 years now, and if the V8 had an 8-speed tranny, those guys who already bought a model will be crying and suing as they were looking for the 2 missing gears. As the article I posted states, the 8-speed is coming in the future.
The Genesis V8 currently has the ZF 6-speed transmission with a 3.133:1 final drive ratio:
 
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/library/Hynd_BH_WebSpecs07.pdf
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [dean3927] by joshuag
Nov 20, 2008 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: dean3927 (Nov 19, 2008 11:01 pm)

Some people, not a lot, but some have said that the Genesis is overpriced. In a recent Car and Driver article they tested the Genesis against the 5-series BMW, Chrysler 300c, and the Toyota Avalon. Of course they liked the BMW better because of it's sportier handling. But hands down, they liked it better than the Chrysler, and they liked it even better than the Avalon. My brother own a Avalon limited and has never liked Hyundai's, but has absolutely fallen in love with the Genesis. The article said that for around the same money as a XLS Avalon you could get the Genesis, and they seemed to think it would be a better buy and I think so too.
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [joshuag] by allmet33
Nov 20, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 20, 2008 3:03 am)

I really wouldn't feed into that whole notion of folks thinking the Genesis is overpriced. The majority that think like that simply want it to be cheaper because of the fact it's a Hyundai. Also, they wan't one badly, but they don't have the backbone to stand up to family and friends and justify why they spent almost $40K on a Hyundai.
 
Considering the car has been directly compared to the Lexus GS and it was basically said that the Genesis offered ALMOST everything (gadget for gadget, option for option & feature for feature) as the GS at a considerable savings, and yet nobody is crying about the GS being overpriced.
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Aftermarket Bliss by allmet33
Nov 20, 2008 (7:57 am)
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Seems like aftermarket tuner companies are taking a liking to the Genesis. First DUB creates two slick rides for the SEMA show and now this...
 

 
Rides Magazine creates custom Hyundai Genesis for SEMA
 
I picked up the latest Rides magazine and saw the article on this...SWEET!!!
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [allmet33] by captain2
Nov 20, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 20, 2008 7:15 am)

that whole notion of folks thinking the Genesis is overpriced.
that's just it - in an absolute hardware for the dollar perspective - the Genesis is underpriced as most Hyundai offerings are. From a perception standpoint and relative to where it is sold it is overpriced.
If you think about it there are very very few manufacturers that can successfully sell a $40k car alongside a $10k one. Thinking about that a little further some of those 'Japanese' brands may be the only ones to successfully pull that off - and they had to come up with new brands (and dealers) to do it.
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Re: Hyundai Working On Eight-Speed Transmission for Genesis Sedan [captain2] by allmet33
Nov 20, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Nov 20, 2008 8:00 am)

Captain, once again your points fall short.
 
#1) Bottom line...what you get for your dollar in the Genesis is truly hard to beat. It has clearly been proven that you would have to pay $10K or more to get the very same things the Genesis offers in comparison to the premium sedans. Granted, you can't put a price on luxury sentiment, but we're talking tangibles.
 
#2) Volkswagen is doing the very thing you claim can't be done. Rabbits sell for around $15K and the Toureg 2 in V8 form sells for almost $50K. The Sonata tops out around $25K, the Azera tops out around $30K and you can get into a base Genesis for $33K and fully loaded for just under $40K. I bet you would just love it if the Genesis were sold for the same price as the Azera, huh?
 
With the progressions Hyundai has made, why do you continually believe that they are unable to "do it"???
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Re: What to buy, when. [mitchellrowe] by tjn007
Nov 20, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: mitchellrowe (Nov 19, 2008 10:26 pm)

"hurry up , the price is going up in $ 2000 increnments starting jan 3 , 2009 .
mitchell rowe"
 
The V6 and V8 in every configuration?

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