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Re: USA Today review [tenpin288] by backy
Oct 31, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Oct 31, 2008 10:05 am)

Don't drive unless you intend to buy.
 
Pretty much says it all. Although hopefully the Hyundai dealers won't adopt this phrase.
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Re: USA Today review [tenpin288] by allmet33
Oct 31, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Oct 31, 2008 10:05 am)

Very good review...I think it was spot on with the things that need to be addressed. Shows the car to be exactly what it should be, not what others think it's trying to be. My favorite line out of the review, "Genesis is better than most people need, and easily good enough for most of the rest of us."
 
I wouldn't be surprised if any of the Genesis detractors get on here and explain how the reviewer was paid off by Hyundai to write such a review!!!
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Re: USA Today review [allmet33] by backy
Oct 31, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Oct 31, 2008 10:37 am)

Anyone who knows Healy knows he can brutal on cars he doesn't like.
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Re: USA Today review [backy] by allmet33
Oct 31, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 31, 2008 11:09 am)

It's good to know that someone knows the source!
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by leemy386
Nov 01, 2008 (2:40 am)
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Healy had mocked Korean cars and was lukewarm for the best. This is exceptional.
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Finally, got the V8 at the right lease... by daviderle
Nov 02, 2008 (10:30 pm)
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I have been working almost two weeks with one dealer that would not budge on the lease and they had silver / black interior (with the saddle trim that did not care much for) as they had the first V8 Genesis and they were very proud of it...
 
Yesterday I switched dealers that had right interior color combo (tan / black leather trim) and champaign color, also they were a lot more accommodating on the lease term. Don't get me wrong, I know the economy is bad, but I left some money on the table, I wanted the dealer to make a little living and felt that the price of having not wait for months for the 'right deal' is worth the extra $ ...
 
The way I looked at it, I am paying for 2 year interest free loan, I already like the car and most likely I will make an offer on it at the end of the 24 month lease..
 
In the last month, I went back and drove 528i / 535i, M35, Lexus GS but could not get the right deal on a car that comparable with a fully loaded V8 Genesis, not to mention at some stage if one likes a particular car might as well go for it...you only live once!
 
I have been fortunate to have a good dealer experience, they even got the sales manger I was working to make sure everything went smoothly. On Sunday night I might add!...
 
Now to the car; the car drives much better that the V8 I test drove back in September, the drive is firm but very composed, I love how the interior lights up at night, everything works together very well indeed.
 
The V8 power is evident thought out the RPM range, although one must watch the needle because the car is so quite, even the Mrs was in the back seat mentioned “I know it is a new car!, but why are you going at 35?”, I answered; dear, I will get a ticket I go any faster than 60mph !!..
 
The one gripe I had with demo / V6 was the rear base speaker was exposed! well they listened intently and Hyundai got that fixed, so the lining on the V8 truck looks much, much better...
 
 I suppose I should take my leave and switch over to the Genesis owners forum, although I have enjoyed being part of this forum and wish you all luck in you next car purchase...
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Genesis acting debut by allmet33
Nov 03, 2008 (6:46 am)
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Any one watching the The Unit last night? I couldn't believe it but they were driving a Genesis on the show!
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Re: Finally, got the V8 at the right lease... [daviderle] by bman900
Nov 03, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: daviderle (Nov 02, 2008 10:30 pm)

daviderle,
Since you have driven both the V6 and the V8 Genesis models, can you list some of the differences you noticed in the power, smoothness, handling, etc?
 
Also, is the gearing in the V8 transmission taller than the transmission in the V6? I believe the 3.8L is at about 2150 RPM in top gear at 80 MPH. Is the 4.6L similiar?
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Genesis October Sales by prosource1
Nov 03, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Hyundai moved nearly 1200 Genesi in October.... more than Tucson, Tiburon, Azera and Veracruz and half as many as Accent. I'd say Hyundai has a great offering on their hand considering the economy and fuel prices. Hyundai overall sales were down 31%, which is par for the course for automakers in September.
 
I will agree that Hyundai has likely cannibalized Azera sales with the Genesis but sales are not the only objective of the Genesis offering. It's also about enhancing brand image. And it definitely accomplishing that for Hyundai.
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Re: Finally, got the V8 at the right lease... [bman900] by daviderle
Nov 03, 2008 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: bman900 (Nov 03, 2008 7:41 am)

Since you have driven both the V6 and the V8 Genesis models, can you list some of the differences you noticed in the power, smoothness, handling, etc?
 
In my opinion the V8 trumps the V6 on several levels;
 
Comfort/Esthetics;
 
First the leather is much softer. Which translates to more comfort, (as an example less sticky in hotter weather) also the seat is a little firmer.
 
The little touches; for example; the side chrome bar, the back light door sill. Small things but it does add to the pleasure of the driving experience.
 
Ride/power
 
I can truly describe the V8 as a ‘sports sedan’ because it is firmer and more composed than the V6 (also the ride is tuned much better than the demo V8s they had in the ‘discover genissis tour') .
 
The car handling is very precise, let me put it this way, my brother in law commented; “This car drives as if it is on magnetic / air suspended rails.”
 
The steering is very precise with some road feedback but not as harsh as BMW 5/Infiniti M45 however it is firmer than the Lexus GS 350. While I would describe the V6 (premium plus) to much closer to Lexus GS ride.
 
The steering radius is incredible on the V8, for example, I can dive in a shape of an 8 at the end of a cal-de-sac.! The steering turns more than two revolutions in either direction without any effort, at more than 70% angle!?
 
I took 90” turn at 30mph angle turn without the slightest hint of body roll. I am sure the car tilted I just did not feel it. I would say the electric powered steering does make a huge difference!
 
The V8 vehicle appears to anticipate the driving ‘mode’, I am beginning to get to used it! if you slowly press the gas pedal half way, then floor it, the car takes off and you are doing 80 before you know it.
 
If you try it floor it from a standstill, the traction / stability control kicks and power is greatly reduced which results in rather unpredictable acceleration pattern that takes the computers anything from 2 to 3 seconds to correct!
 
I have not had the chance to drive on an interstate yet! but in manual mode at 75mph, it was in third gear at 4500 rpm, so indeed, the ZF does appear to provide taller gears.
 
The Tech package is yummy, but if I had to choose the V6 Tech vs. the V8 (premium) I would choose the V8 in heart beat, (but that is me! )
 
If I had to grade both vehicles, say V6 & v8 Tech (and I drove both Techs + a V6 premium) ..subjective observations, I would come with;
 
                             V 6 --- V8
Power Low End -- 7/10 -- 10/10 (under ideal acceleration conditions)
Power High End -- 8/10 -- 9/10 (manual mode).
Smoothness L/E -- 7/10 -- 9/10
Smoothness H/E -- 6/10 -- 10/10
Over all handling -- 8/10 -- 10/10
 
Hope that answers your questions …

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