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Re: New to leasing...am i getting a good deal??? [deeezldoc] by kenbt
Aug 30, 2008 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: deeezldoc (Aug 30, 2008 8:53 am)

Deeezldoc,
 
Thanks for the information but my deal of $40,000.00 (OTD- Out The Door) for a
2009 Genesis 3.8L V6 w/ Technology Package is extremely good- since the car
MSRP's at $40,000.00- Two dealers will sell this car at this agreed upon price.
 
Also I did contact Chris Shaffer- President of Roseville- California's Largest Hyundai dealer- and he stated as follows-that he does not have give a way a car will prove that- so he basically said No.
 
So reading your comment you are looking at one of the lessor equipped Genesis.
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Certainly a fine looking car! by priggly
Aug 30, 2008 (4:09 pm)
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A Lexus LS460 at half the price! Who wouldn't go for that?!
 
And without the uppity Lexus attitude to boot!
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Re: Test of the 4.6 in Oct 08 Motor Trend [tenpin288] by backy
Aug 30, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Aug 30, 2008 2:22 pm)

Interestingly, C/D also has a test of the 4.6 Genesis in its October issue. They are generally complimentary but make it very clear where they stand: they don't think the Genesis is a "sports sedan" in any way, shape, or form. They take Hyundai to task for suggesting (in marketing literature for example) that the Genesis should be considered a sports sedan. They point out deficiencies in ride and handling, among other things.
 
Personally I had the Genesis pegged as a luxury sedan from Day One, and I think it delivers on that score exceptionally well.
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Re: Test of the 4.6 in Oct 08 Motor Trend [backy] by priggly
Aug 30, 2008 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 30, 2008 5:00 pm)

Insofar as C&D is concerned, anything that is not Mercedes or BMW is not a sports sedan. I'd take their "opinion" with a very large grain of salt.
 
The Genesis is a fantastic sedan by any measure and combines the best attributes of both a sports sedan and a luxury sedan. There is really nothing on the market quite like it, especially for the price.
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Is there a decent Hyundai dealer in Florida? by traderj
Aug 30, 2008 (11:54 pm)
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I just went to my 3rd Hyundai dealership in South Florida and the experience just keeps getting worse and worse. I have a Cadillac STS and my lease is ending. I am willing to give the Genesis a try, however, I will give it one more shot and then I am walking away. The salesmen, are rude, insulting, moronic idiots who have no understanding of their products or how to treat a customer. And, they certainly don't understand leasing. When they give you wrong information and you question them, they get insulted and then start insulting you. Please, please, please, if someone has had a good experience with any Hyundai dealer in the state of Florida, tell me which one.
As far as this being a sports sedan, who are you kidding? This is a quiet solid car made for those of us 50 and over. There is nothing sport sedanish (new word) about this. Neither the cockpit nor the drive was designed for that. It is a good substutute for the STS. But, honestly, I don't understand the appeal to younger people who are looking for a "driver's car".
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Re: Is there a decent Hyundai dealer in Florida? [traderj] by goodmove
Aug 31, 2008 (4:56 am)
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Replying to: traderj (Aug 30, 2008 11:54 pm)

if someone has had a good experience with any Hyundai dealer in the state of Florida, tell me which one.
 
Every dealer has knowledgeable and courteous people, although they might be hard to find. But to save you some time, if I had to do lease my Genesis all over again, I would contact Anthony Morris a manager at Coconut Creek Hyundai, I would ask him to assign Edeline as the sales person and I would make sure I do not get the "new" finance guy to write up the lease. I have posted before that the new finance guy there tried to scam me out of $399 for GAP insurance, which I later learned on this board that it is included in HMFC leases. When Anthony found out, he rewrote the lease and refunded me the $399.
 
Rick Case Hyundai on 441 has a fantastic and knowledgeable Jamaican salesman named Ken. I did not buy there because they did not have the color I was looking for and I want to see what I am getting before I pay for it. I do not like dealer trades.
 
If you don't mind tinted windows on your Genesis, Rick Case in Davie might be OK. Jose is a great salesman. Just make sure you do not buy your iPod cable there, as they mark it up by $5.00 . Can they think of a better way to lose a customer?
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Re: Is there a decent Hyundai dealer in Florida? [goodmove] by tom17
Aug 31, 2008 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: goodmove (Aug 31, 2008 4:56 am)

Just make sure you do not buy your iPod cable there, as they mark it up by $5.00
 
I am sorry, but after buying a $40,000 car I would not be worried about an extra $5 profit on the cable. Many of the dealers are marking the cars up $1700. I would rather pay a $5 markup on a cable than a $1700 markup on a car !!!
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Check out new Genesis Website by beseto
Aug 31, 2008 (6:00 am)
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URL: http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/
 
Description: Hyundai engineers looked closely at every detail when building the 2009 Genesis sedan. Now it's your turn. Go ahead, kick the tires.
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Looking in Ottawa, Ont by rjwrde
Aug 31, 2008 (6:20 am)
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As others have said, I never thought I'd drive a Hyundai, but after doing some research, I'm pretty impressed with the gains they appear to have made over the last few years. I shop for value, not brand name and the Genesis looks like a good value. I'm very close to making the decision to purchase/lease but, like many here, am concerned about the level of service that Hyundai dealers can or will provide for buyers in this price range. I currently drive an Acura TL and so far there is no comparison with the dealer experience. When I questioned the salesman about loaner cars or warranty claims he just kinda looked at me with a funny expression on his face. Has anyone had any warranty issues yet and if so how is it working out? I'm not looking for a new best friend but I do expect to see knowledgeable and prompt service when I drive this level of vehicle.
 
I'm looking at the 3.8 with the tech package and like some others have posted, it is disappointing how little knowledge the dealers have of this car. I'm hopeful that others on this forum who own the car can answer a few simple questions.
 
When I test drove the vehicle the other day, I attempted to test the smart cruise control. Unless it activates at less than about 25 feet, the car I drove did not have smart cruise. Does anyone know if there is a switch or setting that has to be activated before it works? Also, given that we all have different comfort levels with distances to follow someone, can the distance it will maintain behind a car be adjusted?
 
Does anyone know what happened to the 30 (or 40) gigabyte harddrive that was mentioned in a few reviews and in the early promotional brochure from Hyundai? As far as I can tell they left this option on the factory shelf.(Probably will be available on next years version.)
 
Does the audio system have speed sensitive volume? If so, how effective are you finding it?
 
Is it just me or does the model with the tech package have a stiffer ride than the 3.8 with Premium package only? I found that I was hearing/feeling every crack in the road much more with the tech pac than on the one without it. It was on different days and different roads so could just be my memory.
 
If anyone from Ontario is on this site and willing to exchange info on the deal they were able to negotiate I'd appreciate it.
 
Thanks
RW
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Re: Is there a decent Hyundai dealer in Florida? [tom17] by goodmove
Aug 31, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: tom17 (Aug 31, 2008 5:56 am)

I am sorry, but after buying a $40,000 car I would not be worried about an extra $5 profit on the cable. Many of the dealers are marking the cars up $1700. I would rather pay a $5 markup on a cable than a $1700 markup on a car !!!
 
Thanks for your input tom17...
 
I suggest Rick Case look at it the following way, changing your words a bit:
"I am sorry, but after SELLING a $40,000 car I would not be worried about an extra $5 profit on the cable." What an opportunity to spread good word of mouth they are missing.
 
Rick And Rita Case not only want $5 above the 29.95 MSRP on the cable. They want $700 for a window tint they force you to buy, on top of their market adjustment, that was either 1495 or 1995 when I bought my car a month ago (elsewhere).
 
I have bought 4 Hondas from their sister store next store, Rick Case Honda, and when I go to the parts counter, I present my Rick Case Rewards card and get a discount. I get my car washed for free anytime I want and I get discounted gasoline, That card is not honored at the Hyundai store. They treat me well when I want a Honda. Why not treat me well when I "try" to buy a Hyundai? Do they think people's IQ drop when they walk into a Hyundai store?
 
I am blessed that 5 bucks is not a big deal to me, I am glad you are fortunate and 5 bucks is not a big deal to you either tom17, but it is the principle.
 
The point here is that I consider the Genesis to be one of the best values out there in the Luxury Sedan market, and it would be a real shame for people not to indulge in such a great car, because of a few short sighted dealers out there.
 
I have driven over 2,400 miles in my first month and enjoyed every single mile as the best car overall I have driven. During my 10 (1994- 2004) years as a wholesaler in the car business, I have driven for extended periods (at least a week) , over 300 used luxury cars, including MB, BMW, Audi, Infinity, Lexus, Acura, Jaguar and even a Rolls Royce and the Genesis rates at least 95% as good as most of those cars. When you factor in price and leave out "prestige", the Genesis looks pretty good.
 
By the way, if 5 bucks is not a big deal to you, I suggest you send that amount to your favorite charity. And if Rick or Rita are reading this, I am aware you guys contribute heavily to charities, send the 5 bucks you overcharge on each iPod cable to charity. I'll buy a Honda from you, but for now, no Hyundais in Davie.

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