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Replying to: paisan (Apr 07, 2007 9:29 am) I'm interested because if it's built here, it will sell even better. If not built in US, if its content is parts built here, i.e., a motor, and assembled elsewhere, that's better for them. I don't know where Hyundai has plants and builds what currently that might become Genesis production plants. That's what I was asking. I didn't ask about clothing, TVs, shoes, etc, since that's off topic. As someone who shopped Sonatas recently, I find this an interesting upscale for Hyundai. The only item I really didn't like on the Sonata was the lower profile, larger diameter tires. I want the old-fashioned 16-inch 60 profile or taller tires for what I consider a better ride. Yes, I know I'm out-of-fashion on that one. Other than that the Sonata could get my dollar. The Azera might even make it as a LeSabre replacement. As Toyota loudly advertises its US plants building cars, I believe the Hyundai has an even better chance of giving Honda/Toyota a run if the car is built in US or has a good content. I am in favor of Hyundai making a competitive car for competition with the cache the other two have built.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 9:37 am) -mike |
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Replying to: killerbunny (Apr 07, 2007 6:22 am) It is possible to come close, and even exceed, performance and quality for less money. Cost does not always equate to performance and quality. But then again we are discussing a car that hasn't been produced yet. When we can touch and feel the real thing we can talk more on this. |
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Replying to: prosource1 (Apr 07, 2007 7:02 am) I don't think Hyundai needs the prestige factor, its going to battle it out on price. There is a significant number of people who will buy it simply because it offers everything the other luxury cars offer (we are presuming) at a much lower cost. It has worked for Hyundai in the past. |
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Fords and Chev's built in Mexico, Honda's and Toyota's built in Canada, Hyundais and Benz's built in Alabama, BMW's built in South Carolina. When are people going to realize that we are living in a global community whose borders are being torn down daily. Either you accept this and learn to grow with it or you'll be like the record industry who lost 20% of its market last year, and even more this year, because they refuse to accept that music lovers wanted to download songs and not buy their whole albums. Welcome to an ever-changing Global community that doesn't care about your traditions or allegiances. Wake-up!
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Replying to: prosource1 (Apr 07, 2007 10:06 am)  -mike |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 9:37 am) The Genesis (or whatever Hyundai decides to call the production version) will be built in Korea since it requires an entirely new production line, and being the halo car they would want to keep the engineering and production close at hand. There is some talk of setting up an Azera production line at the Hyundai plant in Alabama around 2009 (they build Sonatas and Santa Fes now). |
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I wanted to add one thing about the Hyundai offering the Genesis: -Hyundai should have offered the Genesis at next years Detroit or NY Auto show which would have sent shockwaves thru their competitors. Now its not a secret and... -I'm guessing that Hyundai's competitors will not sit by and let an upstart like Hyundai trump them. That is a fact and is the basis for competition. -I'm guessing that Lexus, Acura and others will seek to offer an equivalent or better car for at least an equivalent price -I know that the consumer is going to be able to get more car for less money once Hyundai seeks to enter this market.
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Do you all think Hyundai will take an outfitted variant of the Veracruz, the I30 or Velostar, Azera, Genesis concept and develop a luxury line out of them. Hyundai has a number of concepts in the pipeline and has the production capability with new plants coming on-line to be able to put together a luxury bran with a new name. What do you think? Imagine how much of a shake up it would be if Hyundai showed up in 2008 with a 4 vehicle line-up that was $10-$25k cheaper than anything Lexus or others offered. Hyundai is really going after Toyota/Lexus so I would bet you would see a vehicle line-up to mimic that brand: Lexus Offering Hyundai Offering IS250/350 Variant of I30, Velostar comcept or C'eed GS 350 Azera variant w/new suspension;sh'tmetal RX 350 Veracruz variant Lexus LS 460 Hyundai I70 (Genesis Concept)
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This is the best forum on edmunds, right now. Lots of good posts. Well I do guys think it's a good idea to try to buy american, but when Ford, is building cars like they built my Detroit Lions team for the last 5 or 6 decades the consumers get tired. GM, has pushed the brand I love "Cadillac" to prices that people making my middle class wages can't afford them even if they save. Ya know what imidazol97, that surprises me you were shopping a Sonata.  Well the same can be said about me with looking at this Genesis. I'm getting pissed that the big 3 are bringing a lot of their new cars from Australia, or like the new Saturns will be built in Mexico, like the Astra. Perhaps maybe you and I should be like everyone else and say screw it and buy what's best for our wallet as cars are getting way to expensive even though they have cut production costs by more than 60% in the last decade to decade and a half with out sourcing. I do try to buy american made clothes, shoes, etc, but cars are going up faster than my raises. The Genesis, will be on my radar when it comes out and so will the EVO-X. The Caddy STS will be out of reach cuz GM, hasn't ran any specials on the V8's as far as leases go. Ford, at least does this time to time to move these expensive cars. My GM, discount will not eat enough lease cost to make one afordable. I can lease a Navigator Limited for the same money $150-$200 a month cheaper as an example than a STS and I will save $7K on a STS with my discount. I checked into it on a 05' when they came out. It was $780 a month with my GM, discount. I assume my 09' CTS-V will run around $60K so that is out of the question probably also and knowing GM, I will have to wait months for them to offer GM employee elgible people a discount like they did when the first CTS-V came out I was looking into. That's when I bought the 1 yr. old 02' Seville STS.  So just maybe a Genesis, will fit the bill. We will see. I do like iluv's Lancer, thus I will have to check out those EVO's also.  Rocky
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