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5665 messages, Last post on Nov 10, 2009 at 6:39 PM
You are in the Hyundai Genesis Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
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At the risk of being a brownnoser, the host is right on the profit thing. The Elite marques don't even need to offer reliability or quality but just offer the perception and marketing of such. I recall a recent Car and Driver article which noted engine failure in several of their long-term tests of BMW's below 50,000 miles. People who buy a BMW don't care though because the perception of the marque is greater than the reality of its failures. Hyundai has the opposite: the reality of their quality and durability is less than the perception of its previous failures and therefore prevents many customers from experiencing just how good recent Hyundai's are. Our family was loaded up with Hyundai's at one time and had so few problems that we were shocked and amazed that people thought we were driving 'junk'. We were alomost evangelistic to try to tell others just how good they were. This is what many Hyundai owners experience, partly due to low expectations, and why Hyundais return customers % is rapidly rising above other brands. |
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Where is the Genesis going to be built? What percent will be US content?
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 9:06 am) -mike |
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 07, 2007 9:29 am) My parents bought a Kia Optima 2 years ago, it's got 45k miles on it, zero problems. Paid $12k for it which included tax, tags, title, etc. I drove it and it was pretty darn good for a FWD 4-cylinder. Heck it's got projector headlights and manumatic shifting! Would I buy the optima they bought? Probably not because I like AWD or RWD cars, but, I have to say Hyundai and Kia are some of the best value cars out there. -mike |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 9:06 am) I read recently that Hyundai is already planning on 5 liter variants of the 4.6 and direct injection and twin turbo applications that will make the Genesis over 500hp from the plant! Not taking that serious? Noone is taking the Genesis as a serious contender to the BMW or Lexus but neither did they take Lexus serious either. By the way, for anyone who thinks this could not measure up, Hyundai has already spent 5 years on the development of this and they know it has to meet or exceed expectations..that is why they keep changing and revising this thing. Also, Hyundai has the money to throw into this because its their 'halo' car that will catapault them to new heights of brand recognition and sales. This one car could change everything when it arrives. |
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 07, 2007 9:29 am) I'm interested because if it's built here, it will sell even better. If not built in US, if its content is parts built here, i.e., a motor, and assembled elsewhere, that's better for them. I don't know where Hyundai has plants and builds what currently that might become Genesis production plants. That's what I was asking. I didn't ask about clothing, TVs, shoes, etc, since that's off topic. As someone who shopped Sonatas recently, I find this an interesting upscale for Hyundai. The only item I really didn't like on the Sonata was the lower profile, larger diameter tires. I want the old-fashioned 16-inch 60 profile or taller tires for what I consider a better ride. Yes, I know I'm out-of-fashion on that one. Other than that the Sonata could get my dollar. The Azera might even make it as a LeSabre replacement. As Toyota loudly advertises its US plants building cars, I believe the Hyundai has an even better chance of giving Honda/Toyota a run if the car is built in US or has a good content. I am in favor of Hyundai making a competitive car for competition with the cache the other two have built.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 9:37 am) -mike |
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Replying to: killerbunny (Apr 07, 2007 6:22 am) It is possible to come close, and even exceed, performance and quality for less money. Cost does not always equate to performance and quality. But then again we are discussing a car that hasn't been produced yet. When we can touch and feel the real thing we can talk more on this. |
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Replying to: prosource1 (Apr 07, 2007 7:02 am) I don't think Hyundai needs the prestige factor, its going to battle it out on price. There is a significant number of people who will buy it simply because it offers everything the other luxury cars offer (we are presuming) at a much lower cost. It has worked for Hyundai in the past. |
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Fords and Chev's built in Mexico, Honda's and Toyota's built in Canada, Hyundais and Benz's built in Alabama, BMW's built in South Carolina. When are people going to realize that we are living in a global community whose borders are being torn down daily. Either you accept this and learn to grow with it or you'll be like the record industry who lost 20% of its market last year, and even more this year, because they refuse to accept that music lovers wanted to download songs and not buy their whole albums. Welcome to an ever-changing Global community that doesn't care about your traditions or allegiances. Wake-up!
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