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Re: Another price comparo [allthatblue] by tjc78
May 29, 2008 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: allthatblue (May 28, 2008 7:31 pm)

I think 7~8 months are enough to find out critical problems and no flaws has been issued yet.
 
Possibly, Hyundai's quality has been constantly improving. However, like I said in my previous post, perception means a lot.
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Detailed Pricing / Packages for Genesis by viking967
May 29, 2008 (8:29 am)
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are available here:
 
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=136
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Re: More features please... [carbunt] by backy
May 29, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: carbunt (May 29, 2008 2:17 am)

I said I haven't owned an Avalon. I've driven it... pretty nice, but not worth the asking price IMO. If I were to get a Toyota V6 I'd get the Camry SE, or maybe the Hybrid, and save a lot of money compared to the Avalon.
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Re: Detailed Pricing / Packages for Genesis [viking967] by louiswei
May 29, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: viking967 (May 29, 2008 8:29 am)

This is what I said back in 5/27 (before the official price was released):
 
Really? Here's my prediction...
  
V6 Genesis to start at $29,500 (so Hyundai can keep its promise) and tops out at $36k. The V8 Genesis would start at around $36k and tops out at around $41k.

 
So according to the detailed pricing/packages, a V6 would top out at $40k and V8 at $42k...
 
Funny that even an in-optimistic predictor and so called "Hyundai basher" like me has completely low-balled the Genesis pricing. This is really depressing.
 
So where is that poster who claimed that there is no way that the Genesis would go over the $40k barrier?
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Re: Detailed Pricing / Packages for Genesis [louiswei] by circlew
May 29, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 29, 2008 8:53 am)

No way year one is a good bet to purchase this at this price point IMHO. BTW, it's not depressing if you never intended to buy it in the first place.
 
Heck, a base DTS with a good deal of options is $44.6K and with the current $3K incentive trumps the Gen. if you compare that with the V-6 Gen, the Caddy looks real good!
 
Now that's depressing!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Another price comparo [tjc78] by carolinabob
May 29, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (May 28, 2008 6:07 pm)

1. The Azera Limited is the car most comparable to the Avalon Limited. I looked at the Avalon Ltd. with ESC, sunroof, upgraded stereo, et.al., but it had less than the Azera and cost $10,000 more bottom line.
2. Genesis is aimed at Lexus, BMW, Acura and Infiniti markets. Will have a hard time breaking in as the "badge prestige" is what many people pay for in these makes.
3. I will look at the Genesis, but very carefully and only after it has been on the road for a couple of years.
4. One of Hyundai's major selling points is the extremely well equipped cars it offers for a very low price and with an outstanding warranty. My Azera is much better equipped than a 2008 Acura RL I recently drove.
5. Based on what I have read, Hyundai does not intend for this to be a sports car.
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Re: Another price comparo [carolinabob] by tjc78
May 29, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (May 29, 2008 10:02 am)

2. Genesis is aimed at Lexus, BMW, Acura and Infiniti markets. Will have a hard time breaking in as the "badge prestige" is what many people pay for in these makes.
 
Yes... that is why it will most likely sell to Avalon/Azera/Lucerne/Town Car drivers and not BMW 5 and Lexus GS drivers. Its just the way its going to be. I don't see it any other way.
 
I am in no way bashing Hyundai. The Azera is a hell of a car that gives the Avalon a run for its money. Do I prefer the Avalon? Yes, but mainly because of the looks and slightly better handling and interior.
  
As I have said before the Genesis will be on my short list of cars in March/April of '09. The V6 with the premium package looks pretty good. However, if this vehicle is going at MSRP or above I will certainly look elsewhere. There are too many other alternatives at 35K+ (such as the new '09 Maxima)
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Pricing by joe97
May 29, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Obviously the pricing is higher than a lot of us first forecasted, I'd blame mostly on the weak dollars.
 
That said, the uptick will allow the Azera some room to roam.
 
Hyundai certainly isn't the only automaker being affected.
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Re: More features please... [technishawn] by docrw
May 29, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: technishawn (May 28, 2008 9:32 pm)

Let me start by saying if you feel the need to say "not looking for a fight" it usually means that you are. Its like saying "no offense" right before you say something you know will be offensive. That being said, I will take the bait and point out a few things that you might have overlooked when typing out your mini-rant.
 
First of all, how do you know it won't have these features? Just because you haven't seen them published does not mean they are absent. I'd be surprised if it did not have fold-down side mirrors or an 8-way power passenger seat (at least as part of an option package). Otherwise, what cars in the $30-40K price range have power folding side mirrors or reclining rear seats.
 
As far as your other features: power pedals, remote start, remote power windows, these are all gimmicks that are rarely, if ever, used by the majority of people. Besides do any Lexus, Infiniti, BMW or Mercedes cars have these features-no, because they are gimmicks?
 
Also, not everyone likes the folding rear seats because that limits the amount of sound insulation you can use back there and makes the car noisier. In fact, most luxury cars don't have folding rear seats for this very reason.
 
If you don't like the car, fine, you don't have to. But stop making stuff up just to start an argument on a message board. Is your life that empty that you can't find any excitement in the real world?
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Sports Car? by moocow1
May 29, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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You know the one bizarre thing. Most sedans aren't sports sedans with only a few big exceptions. Everyone looking for that sporty and luxury vehicle should be staring directly at the genesis coupe. The genesis itself is obviously more in the inbetween arena where most standard mercedes-benz models would live.

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