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Re: Another price comparo [backy] by circlew
May 29, 2008 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 28, 2008 5:43 pm)

Not the first year Genesis. Perhaps in summer '09 after the bugs come out and go away...oh, and the MAP (Market Adjustment Price) dies!
 
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OW
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Re: More features please... [carbunt] by circlew
May 29, 2008 (3:12 am)
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Replying to: carbunt (May 29, 2008 2:17 am)

Car does look good on paper. Definitly a consideration for anyone smart enough to wait until 2009.
 
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OW
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Re: Another price comparo [backy] by tjc78
May 29, 2008 (3:27 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 28, 2008 7:25 pm)

For those who think the resale on the Genesis will be bad and plan on ditching it in a couple of years, as you seem to have in mind with your Avalon, there's always leasing.
 
Poor resale also makes for expensive leases due to lower residual values. I do see your point however, and my current Avalon is leased and my next car will be too.
 
As for the Genesis not being a sports car... do you think the Avalon is?
 
Of course not... not even in the "touring" form
 
Lots of "nutty" people out there, I guess
 
No... maybe well informed consumers. My point was there still are a lot of bad perceptions out there about Hyundai.
 
If I had to choose between a gussied up Toyota FWD sedan (and one with styling I consider quite ugly) and the Genesis, for about the same money, it would be no contest for the Genesis
 
Thats a tough call considering you haven't even driven a Genesis. As for being ugly... I can respect your opinion as looks are purely subjective anyway.
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Re: Another price comparo [allthatblue] by tjc78
May 29, 2008 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: allthatblue (May 28, 2008 7:31 pm)

I think 7~8 months are enough to find out critical problems and no flaws has been issued yet.
 
Possibly, Hyundai's quality has been constantly improving. However, like I said in my previous post, perception means a lot.
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Detailed Pricing / Packages for Genesis by viking967
May 29, 2008 (8:29 am)
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are available here:
 
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=136
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Re: More features please... [carbunt] by backy
May 29, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: carbunt (May 29, 2008 2:17 am)

I said I haven't owned an Avalon. I've driven it... pretty nice, but not worth the asking price IMO. If I were to get a Toyota V6 I'd get the Camry SE, or maybe the Hybrid, and save a lot of money compared to the Avalon.
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Re: Detailed Pricing / Packages for Genesis [viking967] by louiswei
May 29, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: viking967 (May 29, 2008 8:29 am)

This is what I said back in 5/27 (before the official price was released):
 
Really? Here's my prediction...
  
V6 Genesis to start at $29,500 (so Hyundai can keep its promise) and tops out at $36k. The V8 Genesis would start at around $36k and tops out at around $41k.

 
So according to the detailed pricing/packages, a V6 would top out at $40k and V8 at $42k...
 
Funny that even an in-optimistic predictor and so called "Hyundai basher" like me has completely low-balled the Genesis pricing. This is really depressing.
 
So where is that poster who claimed that there is no way that the Genesis would go over the $40k barrier?
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Re: Detailed Pricing / Packages for Genesis [louiswei] by circlew
May 29, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 29, 2008 8:53 am)

No way year one is a good bet to purchase this at this price point IMHO. BTW, it's not depressing if you never intended to buy it in the first place.
 
Heck, a base DTS with a good deal of options is $44.6K and with the current $3K incentive trumps the Gen. if you compare that with the V-6 Gen, the Caddy looks real good!
 
Now that's depressing!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Another price comparo [tjc78] by carolinabob
May 29, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (May 28, 2008 6:07 pm)

1. The Azera Limited is the car most comparable to the Avalon Limited. I looked at the Avalon Ltd. with ESC, sunroof, upgraded stereo, et.al., but it had less than the Azera and cost $10,000 more bottom line.
2. Genesis is aimed at Lexus, BMW, Acura and Infiniti markets. Will have a hard time breaking in as the "badge prestige" is what many people pay for in these makes.
3. I will look at the Genesis, but very carefully and only after it has been on the road for a couple of years.
4. One of Hyundai's major selling points is the extremely well equipped cars it offers for a very low price and with an outstanding warranty. My Azera is much better equipped than a 2008 Acura RL I recently drove.
5. Based on what I have read, Hyundai does not intend for this to be a sports car.
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Re: Another price comparo [carolinabob] by tjc78
May 29, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (May 29, 2008 10:02 am)

2. Genesis is aimed at Lexus, BMW, Acura and Infiniti markets. Will have a hard time breaking in as the "badge prestige" is what many people pay for in these makes.
 
Yes... that is why it will most likely sell to Avalon/Azera/Lucerne/Town Car drivers and not BMW 5 and Lexus GS drivers. Its just the way its going to be. I don't see it any other way.
 
I am in no way bashing Hyundai. The Azera is a hell of a car that gives the Avalon a run for its money. Do I prefer the Avalon? Yes, but mainly because of the looks and slightly better handling and interior.
  
As I have said before the Genesis will be on my short list of cars in March/April of '09. The V6 with the premium package looks pretty good. However, if this vehicle is going at MSRP or above I will certainly look elsewhere. There are too many other alternatives at 35K+ (such as the new '09 Maxima)

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