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TIRES by aneesh
May 28, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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I was surprised to hear the $33,000 price tag but it does offer a lot of features
 
My major gripe is about the tires-shouldn't a sport sedan come with sport tires?(at least as an option)
 
The Genesis rides on all-season 235/50R18 or 225/55R17 series tires-i would like to see optional 245/45R18 summer performance tires on both the 6 and the 8 cylinder version.
 
Also what about more wheel choices?
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Re: Another price comparo [backy] by tjc78
May 28, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 28, 2008 5:43 pm)

OK... I am an Avalon owner so this may sound a little biased. However, 1st the small power difference will probably have little to no effect on acceleration (due to the slightly increased weight of the Gen)
 
2: Resale, we have no idea what the resale of the Genesis will be like... but if its anything like the current line up of Hyundai it could be pretty bad.
 
3: The Avalon is the class leader in terms of ride, FE, & reliability. Genesis is completely new, so its a little difficult to compare except on paper.
 
4: What does the base model Genesis have that the Av Limited doesn't? Does the base V6 come with HIDs, upgraded stereo, Rainsensing wipers, memory seats, sunshade? All options that will bring the price = to or above the Avalon.
 
I am all for the Genesis being a great vehicle. However, I want to see a full review and some real world FE #s. I think its still a little too early to really compare it to anything. Just the "first drives" confirm that it will not be a sports car by any means.
 
My current Avalon lease goes back in less than a year, so I will be car shopping soon enough. The Genesis may be on my list, but, for now there are too many ?s. Already, I am surprised that Hyundai is going to start this car at 33K. That will scare many right away. I tell this story all the time but when I was looking at the Azera I can't tell you the amount of people that said 30K for a Hyundai? Are you nuts?.... 2 years later I don't think the world is ready for a 40K Hyundai. Mark my words, there will be rebates, special financing/leases within a year IF they want to get the volume to 30/40K units a year. If they are happy with 15/20k on a "niche" vehicle than maybe not. Only time will tell.
 
P.S. in times of $4 gas this isn't the best time to introduce a 375HP V8 car, even if the economy #s look good for a sedan of this size and power. If gas keeps going up the only things selling at MSRP may be Hybrids and 4cyls (but that is a different discussion)
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Re: Another price comparo [tjc78] by backy
May 28, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (May 28, 2008 6:07 pm)

For those who think the resale on the Genesis will be bad and plan on ditching it in a couple of years, as you seem to have in mind with your Avalon, there's always leasing.
 
As for the Genesis not being a sports car... do you think the Avalon is?
 
Did you know Hyundai sold quite a few Veracruzes in the mid-'30s? (Lots of "nutty" people out there, I guess.) If they can do that, why couldn't they sell a low-volume luxury car for that kind of money?
 
If I had to choose between a gussied up Toyota FWD sedan (and one with styling I consider quite ugly) and the Genesis, for about the same money, it would be no contest for the Genesis. But then, I don't own an Avalon so I have no bias one way or the other.
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Re: Another price comparo [tjc78] by allthatblue
May 28, 2008 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (May 28, 2008 6:07 pm)

The Avalon is the class leader in terms of ride, FE, & reliability. Genesis is completely new, so its a little difficult to compare except on paper.
 
The Gen. is new to the US. that's right, but Gen. has been sold in Korea since Jan. this year and it will be 7~8 months after the launch when it wander in the US. I think 7~8 months are enough to find out critical problems and no flaws has been issued yet.
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More features please... by technishawn
May 28, 2008 (9:32 pm)
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Well I am not Impressed I am only seeing two maybe three features "never before seen in this price range" Lets look at what it does not have that other cars in this price range do. 60/40 split folding rear seats, power folding mirrors, tilt down mirrors in reverse, power pedals, keyless entry probably not linked to memory system, 8 way power passenger seat (all of my Chryslers had that), remote start, reclining rear seats, remote power window feature for keyless entry ?, external trunk lid release, wood grain steering wheel for v6 (it would probably just chip off anyway), full size spare tire, cylinder deactivation. This car makes my Azera Limited Ultimate look like grand theft auto at the $26,900.00 I paid out the door. Hyundai is right the Genesis will help sell all other models , especially the Azera. Just the facts... not looking for a fight.
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More Info by mcc6256
May 28, 2008 (10:31 pm)
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/28/hyundai-genesis-sedan-to-start-at-33k/
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Re: More features please... [technishawn] by carbunt
May 29, 2008 (2:17 am)
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Replying to: technishawn (May 28, 2008 9:32 pm)

I suppose the 700 plus pre-sold Genesis buyers must not count. I understand that some may not find the styling to their liking, but just as another poster, Backy has said, he hasn't driven an Avalon so can't make a judgment, well neither have I. So I am in agreement with him there.
 
However, I have test driven a Chrysler 300, which is a nice riding car. But if the Genesis is an even nicer riding car than either of these two vehicles, then the choice is simple. I don't make judgments on cars I haven't driven.
 
Until I have some wheel time with Genesis, I am going to reserve judgment. But the specs and the numbers look very good.
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Re: Another price comparo [backy] by circlew
May 29, 2008 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 28, 2008 5:43 pm)

Not the first year Genesis. Perhaps in summer '09 after the bugs come out and go away...oh, and the MAP (Market Adjustment Price) dies!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: More features please... [carbunt] by circlew
May 29, 2008 (3:12 am)
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Replying to: carbunt (May 29, 2008 2:17 am)

Car does look good on paper. Definitly a consideration for anyone smart enough to wait until 2009.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Another price comparo [backy] by tjc78
May 29, 2008 (3:27 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 28, 2008 7:25 pm)

For those who think the resale on the Genesis will be bad and plan on ditching it in a couple of years, as you seem to have in mind with your Avalon, there's always leasing.
 
Poor resale also makes for expensive leases due to lower residual values. I do see your point however, and my current Avalon is leased and my next car will be too.
 
As for the Genesis not being a sports car... do you think the Avalon is?
 
Of course not... not even in the "touring" form
 
Lots of "nutty" people out there, I guess
 
No... maybe well informed consumers. My point was there still are a lot of bad perceptions out there about Hyundai.
 
If I had to choose between a gussied up Toyota FWD sedan (and one with styling I consider quite ugly) and the Genesis, for about the same money, it would be no contest for the Genesis
 
Thats a tough call considering you haven't even driven a Genesis. As for being ugly... I can respect your opinion as looks are purely subjective anyway.

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