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Re: Info as of April 24, 2008 [backy] by tonycd
Apr 24, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 24, 2008 9:14 am)

Along the same lines, I'd also think that "tilt/telescope steering wheel" in Package 2 means it's power-assisted. Overall, sounds like Package 2 is a very similar equipment level to the Azera Limited Ultimate Package (without navi).
 
One issue I'm still awaiting clarification on: Is the wood real or fake? It's been reported both ways. Of course, it was reported as real in some early stories on the '06 Azera, too. I'm guessing it's fake on the base model, real on the top model and a hearty "dunno yet" in between.
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I saw a Genesis Today! by black_pearl
Apr 30, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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I near about caused myself a nasty little pile-up here in Fredericksburg, Va today cause I spotted a Genesis sedan and was very tempted to give chase to see the cars interior and find out how the owner likes it. Then too I figured maybe it was a tester that someone had out and about. Its a really impressive vehicle from about 15ft away! This one had the "flying H" grille though. I called my local dealership but they don't know anything about it..as usual.
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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [allmet33] by 7milehi
May 01, 2008 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Apr 17, 2008 11:14 am)

True ! I was at a Hyundai dealership several weeks ago asking about the Genesis. Salesman said they would get a few over the summer but they would command a premium price. He said they would sell for $2-3k over MSRP. I told him maybe so , but not from me .
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Re: I saw a Genesis Today! [black_pearl] by air_scoops
May 02, 2008 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: black_pearl (Apr 30, 2008 5:51 pm)

quote "I near about caused myself a nasty little pile-up here in Fredericksburg, Va today cause I spotted a Genesis sedan and was very tempted to give chase to see the cars interior and find out how the owner likes it. Then too I figured maybe it was a tester that someone had out and about. Its a really impressive vehicle from about 15ft away! This one had the "flying H" grille though. I called my local dealership but they don't know anything about it..as usual."
 
I WANT H grill on the front. THAT's what makes this car look even better. I hate the one without the H badge, the one that looks like a waterfall grill. Ugly a$$ grill I have ever seen in my life.....
 
There is a 90% chance I will go with the Genesis Sedan V8 4th quarter of this year. This car will be the attention-getter.
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Posting pictures by pat HOST
May 03, 2008 (6:19 am)
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Please do not post pictures that overlap the right side bar. They prevent people from being able to read the first several messages on the page.
 
Either resize them yourself, or you can post them on your CarSpace page and then use the automatically generated text to display them. That way they will be automatically resized.
 
Sorry, a very wide picture had to be removed.
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Re: Hope the Dealers are Better [ricwhite] by frazee
May 06, 2008 (12:44 am)
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Replying to: ricwhite (Apr 17, 2008 7:20 pm)

Ric, I agree with you 100%. When you go into a BMW or even a Ford dealership, there are usually at least 3 or 4 salespeople who have been "prepped" on new cars before they reach the dealership, and often have even test driven them at special programs. Also, the service department has been prepared through training programs etc. I jumped on my Azera in late January '06 just as they arrived. Fortunately, for me, the dealer I had WAS "with the program" and gave me the car for the exact lease program Hyundai was promoting. They even through in a few "extras"...However the service department was clueless about programming the exit/entry, doorlocks etc.
I have since moved across the coast and find that the service department is polite, but not very "up to snuff" on the latest goings on and even worse, when I walked into the sales department to ask about the Genesis, a slick-talking dude was trying to tell me how "hot" the car was going to be, how limited they were in allocation and how much over MSRP they would sell for. However, he couldn't even give me any specs on the car. Lying in the corner at the very end of the service waiting area, however, was a Genesis full brochure with most of the details that the salesman was lacking. I think Hyundai is completely clueless about marketing,
They have spent a pile developing and manufacturing very good cars lately and then they send them out to old-line hack sales groups, and worse yet, don't bring the dealerships up to certain service standards. When you buy a car, you are buying a total experience. I enjoy my Azera, and fortunately for me, I have had ZERO defects and problems for my two years. I bought my car off lease at the option price, since the re-sale has held up so well and also know that my car is "perfect."
However, I can assure you that I will NOT buy another Hyundai, because I have been lucky to have a car without problems. If that had not been the case, I am sure it would have been a series of horrors to get my problems solved given the poor training and lack of coordination between dealer and manufacturer. I would rather spend the extra $6-$10k to go from a Genesis to an Infiniti M45 or somesuch and know that over a 6 or 7 year ownership, that extra money buys me a relationship with a dealer network and manufacturer that are dedicated to TOTAL customer satisfaction and will save me a pile of aggravation. Someday Hyundai just might get their act together, but right now....excellent products, but every other part of the purchase/ownership relationship is a total crapshoot. I will keep my Azera and enjoy it and feel it was a good buy, but also realize I have been lucky!!
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Re: Hope the Dealers are Better [frazee] by ricwhite
May 06, 2008 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: frazee (May 06, 2008 12:44 am)

I, also, bought my Azera at the end of the lease. I've had it for 27 months and it's in excellent condition and only has 18,000 miles. I'm keeping my eye on the Genesis and will wait until there are many reviews, crash test results, buyer experiences, etc. Even though I had a really awful experience leasing my Azera, I DID finally find a good dealership which knew what they were doing.
 
I'm not dismissing buying a Genesis, but after the laughably bad experiences at Hyundai dealerships, I am going be quite cautious before buying another Hyundai automobile. If things haven't changed from two years ago, I find it rather ridiculous that such inept dealerships would try to sell what they consider to be "up-scale" automobiles. The difference between, say, Acura and Hyundai is like the difference between Nordstrom and Wal-mart. Could a Wal-mart really sell high-end clothing and housewares with their current atmosphere and employees? Doubt it, yet, Hyundai is trying to do that with the Genesis.
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Genesis gene pool by dborth
May 07, 2008 (12:17 am)
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Many potential Genesis purchasers will no doubt be current Azera owners. I agree with the previous comments from frazee and ricwhite. In my case I leased an '07 Azera in Oct '06 from a stand alone Hyundai dealer. The lease experience was flawless, but service related issues such as programming locks after purchase was a joke. I was charged, then reimbursed after receiving a welcome mailer from Hyundai Fountain Valley.
 
Sadly, the original dealer went belly up shortly after. Now Hyundai is the secondary product line in the closest dealer to my home and I dread making a service appointment as I know more about Azera than they do.
 
My lease expires in April '09. Maybe by then Genesis will have indeed been launched and available for sale / lease. But as long as Korea is satisfied with mediocrity with their local dealers I'll probably purchase this otherwise satisfying vehicle and turn over service responsibility to my wife.
 
I doubt the fast, cheap and out the door approach will fly with Genesis.
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Re: Hope the Dealers are Better [ricwhite] by frazee
May 07, 2008 (12:37 am)
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Replying to: ricwhite (May 06, 2008 3:56 pm)

Ric...you had said " The difference between, say, Acura and Hyundai is like the difference between Nordstrom and Wal-mart."
 
Actually Wal-mart is a very well-run and competent operation that is somewhat consumer-friendly. I think the difference between Infiniti/Acura and Hyundai dealers are somewhat more akin to the difference between .99 Cent Stores and Nordstroms.
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