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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [allmet33] by bigelm
Apr 17, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Apr 17, 2008 12:44 pm)

I know these two vehicles are 'tailored' differently, but my top reason of interest is its size. I need the space and I've already gone through 3 cars in 5 yrs because my son is growing like a weed. The next car I buy, I want to hold on to it for at least 4 years. I've already test drove the G8 GT and it's a well balanced, powerful performance car. Your friend's meaning of raw power probably comes from the fact that the engine is very smooth and the exhaust is silent, so you don't get the typical V8 growling; but that's nothing some aftermarket exhausts can't take care of... and some optional tuning
 
I'm very impressed with the Genesis (on paper) and I'm looking forward to some great reviews. The Genesis and G8 are very similar, if not, identical in size. If it's as roomy as the G8, then I'm more inclined to get a Genesis, especially with a rumored SC for the V8
 
My wife has a 2007 SF and it's only had an O2 sensor replaced. Now with ~20k miles and trouble free, Hyundai is making some really good vehicles. Here's hoping the Genesis will be their successful halo car.
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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [bigelm] by allmet33
Apr 17, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: bigelm (Apr 17, 2008 1:06 pm)

Well...I plan on going and getting a test ride in a G8 myself so I can see. Personally, I like the quite unassuming type of power. I guess my ownership of my 86 1/2 Supra back in the day spoiled me. I truly love the combination of power and grace my Azera has, so I know the Genesis will make me happy. On top of that, i lean more towards the look of luxury, so it would be a no brainer for me as to which one I would get.
 
Like you...I've changed cars too due to growing children and family expansion. My '02 Sonata hardly offered enough leg room for my daughters to sit behind me comfortably, but the Azera has taken care of that nicely. From what I've heard and seen, the Genesis won't have much more room than what the Azera offers already.
 
The Azera is my 3rd Hyundai (first being an '87 Excel)...yes, they have come so very far in terms of quality...like they jumped from the stone age to the computer age in one leap (okay, that's an exaggeration, but it seems like it).
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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [allmet33] by louiswei
Apr 17, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Apr 17, 2008 1:16 pm)

allmet, you never told me that you had a '86.5 Supra, now I definitely have more respect towards you.
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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [allmet33] by bigelm
Apr 17, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Apr 17, 2008 1:16 pm)

From what I've heard and seen, the Genesis won't have much more room than what the Azera offers already
 
I hope that's not the case, but time will tell. I can't understand how a full size sedan like the Genesis would be similar in interior space as the Azera. That would be a big mistake for Hyundai. Although I can say, being 6'5" the space in the SF and other Hyundai vehicles I've sat in, are pretty decent in interior space. - I guess I'm expecting more from a larger vehicle. The G8's interior space is incredible. I put the driver sear all the way back (barely touching the pedals) and sat in the back seat and my legs weren't even close to the back of the driver seat. And very comfortable I might add....
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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [louiswei] by allmet33
Apr 17, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Apr 17, 2008 1:19 pm)

Yeah...I got it for a steal for only $2K and LOVED it. Only problem is...it needed a little work that I never got to do and then the timing belt went on it. By then, having 2 kids really didn't warrant getting it fixed, so I sold it to my brother-in-law for $500 and he fixed it and drove it for a while. If I could ever have one car back...it would be that one.
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Hope the Dealers are Better by ricwhite
Apr 17, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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I enjoy my current Azera, but getting the car in the first place was a total nightmare. The dealerships were horrendous. It took four dealerships and traveling to a different city in order to get my Azera. All I wanted was the advertised lease deal at the time. The first dealership negotiated the cap cost (about an hour) to a reasonable level, but then refused to give me the advertised money factor or residual. They told me that they didn't have to offer the advertised deal if they didn't want to and to leave if I don't like the deal ($500 a month lease vs. $299 advertised deal. I'm not making this up). I left.
 
The second dealership was in a nearby city. I made an appointment, got the address out of the phone book and went. The address took me to an abandoned field. I called them and got the correct address and when I showed them the phone book and the wrong printed address, they had NO IDEA the address in the phone book was wrong. (They never looked at the advertisement or had it reviewed or had somebody else tell them about the error??) After some negotiation of cap cost and the lease deal, I asked them to run the numbers. I was left alone for over 30 minutes (no kidding). When the guy finally came back, he looked upset. He told me that nobody could get the lease software to work on the computer. He said the guy that usually does the leases was off that day. (I was VERY clear when I made the appointment that I was interested in a LEASE). I had no choice but to leave. I left my contact information and didn't get a call back for 3 days. When I finally did get a call, the manager told me that he could only take off about $700 off the retail price which resulted in a cap cost substantially more than I had negotiated initially when I was at the dealership. No good.
 
The third dealership was totally dishonest. They claimed that ALL of the "invoice pricing" information from websites such as Edmunds and ALL of the pricing information given to me at the other Hyundai dealerships (which all matched) was wrong. The actual price of the Azera was over $800 more than what all the others claimed. ??? Right. Then they started tacking on fees. The funniest one was the "dealer name fee" of $350. They told me that was a mandatory fee for the privilege of putting the name "Ken Garff" on the building. ?? I laughed and walked out.
 
Can you imagine this kind of nonsense going on with the HYUNDAI GENESIS? An upscale market luxury vehicle? What a total joke. "I" knew a LOT more about the Azera than the salespeople at the Hyundai dealerships. It was like walking into a store to buy expensive imported china only to find out it was a Wal-mart.
 
So, it would be far better for Hyundai to have a separate dealership for the Genesis, in my opinion (and experience).
 
Just to be fair. The fourth dealership I visited (Murdock Hyundai in Orem, Utah) was EXCELLENT. Very knowledgeable. I didn't have to negotiate at all. Implemented the lease deal AS ADVERTISED. No hidden fees. PERFECT. But one out of four is a very poor record and if the same pattern holds true for selling the Genesis, Hyundai is in BIG trouble. Somebody in the market for an upscale vehicle would not put up with that kind of amateurish incompetence.
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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [allmet33] by joe97
Apr 18, 2008 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Apr 17, 2008 1:16 pm)

From what I've heard and seen, the Genesis won't have much more room than what the Azera offers already.
 
The interior volume is 2.5 cu. ft. larger than that of the Azera, which will be a good upgrade in terms of size and space.
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Re: Got the order request on Genesis. [joe97] by allmet33
Apr 21, 2008 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Apr 18, 2008 7:42 pm)

2.5 cu. ft. spread throughout the cabin can factor out to a mere inch here, half an inch there or a couple inches somewhere else. It won't seem that much bigger and still falls into line with what I said...it won't have MUCH more room than what the Azera already offers. So folks thinking they would be getting a major upgrade in interior space over the Azera...don't hold your breath.
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Info as of April 24, 2008 by jeansyc
Apr 24, 2008 (8:15 am)
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THIS IS INFO SENT TO ME BY A HYUNDAI DEALER'S SALESPERSON. THAT IS ALL THE PERSON KNOWS SO THAT IS ALL I KNOW
 
I guess I'm just going to have to get the details to you in increments as they become available to me. I still don't have any stats on the V8 engine because it hasn't been allocated yet. But the V6 3.8l has 4 different packages.
 
Package 1: Standard equipment
 
Package 2: Premium package
 
Comes with leather wrapped dash
 
Integrated memory system
 
Lexicon 15 speaker surround sound, 6-disc stereo system
 
Sunroof, rain-sensing wipers, tilt/telescopic S/W
 
Power driver seat, heated seats
 
Package 3: Premium Package Plus
 
Has everything the Premium package has plus 18" Hyper Silver Alloy Wheels
 
Package 4: Technology Package
 
Lexicon Discrete Audio System w/6 disc changer
 
Navigation System w/Back-Up Camera
 
Driver Information System (D.I.S.), Multimedia Controller
 
HID, Auto Leveling & Adaptive Headlights
 
Front and Rear Parking Assistence Sensors
 
Cooled Drivers Seat
 
 The Smart Cruise Control is an option. It's the lane change that is not. Also, we have ordered 4 Genesis that we are expecting in sometime late June.
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Re: Info as of April 24, 2008 [jeansyc] by backy
Apr 24, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: jeansyc (Apr 24, 2008 8:15 am)

For Package 2, they have to mean "Power passenger seat." I can't believe Hyundai would try to sell the Genesis w/o a standard power driver's seat.

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