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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [lookylou1] by joe97
Mar 13, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: lookylou1 (Mar 12, 2008 6:05 pm)

Tell the manager to stop drinking whatever he's drinking
 
Of course there is no Genesis on his lot right now. No dealerships across the North America continent has one for sale currently.
 
Don't believe the 1,000 units of Genesis, it's probably a way for that dealership to entice you to get one - "we have so few of these, if you don't get one, there wouldn't be any left...", or something to that effect
 
The Genesis will be arriving in a few months, and there will be a long pre-sell period, with events such as invitation drives (which I'd assume for a few days) and various marketing tie-in with premium establishments.
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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [allmet33] by ricwhite
Mar 13, 2008 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 13, 2008 5:27 am)

Do I think they would only make 1000 Genesis? Probably not, but I DO think the Genesis will be in VERY short supply.
 
When I bought my Azera in March of 2006, I talked to or visited seven Hyundai dealership. Two didn't have ANY Azeras (and, remember, this was four months after they were released). Three ONLY had the floor model, and the other two had less than six total. The Azera was is VERY short supply and I had to drive to a different city to find one in black.
 
I think the Genesis will be in shorter supply than the Azera. And I think the V8 Genesis will be a very rare find. Good luck on that one.
 
Based on my experience with the Azera, I also think the dealerships will be VERY unprepared for the Genesis and have totally inaccurate information about it. And since they will be in short supply, I can easily see them steering customers to the HUGE volume of cars sitting on their lots collecting dust.
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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [ricwhite] by allmet33
Mar 13, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: ricwhite (Mar 13, 2008 6:27 am)

Yeah...I don't know the Hyundai logic when they brought the Azera out. I bought mine at one dealership, but they had to go get it from another dealer because they didn't have the one I wanted. I bought mine Feb./Mar. of '06 as well and encountered the same thing you did...very, very few to see, much less choose from. I hope it's not an indication of how things will go with the Genesis.
 
It is my thinking that the Genesis will help the sales of the other cars though. It is one car generating buzz and interest amongst anyone that knows about cars. Even if it's just to go check it out, it'll bring folks in the door and when they see the Azera, Veracruz & updated Sonata...they're gonna be like, "Whoa...I didn't know they had all these nice cars!"
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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [joe97] by backy
Mar 13, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 13, 2008 6:15 am)

The 1000 number could be legit. Consider:
 
* Maybe not every Hyundai dealer will get them. Wasn't there talk that dealers would need to demonstrate that they deserve to sell the Genesis?
 
* Maybe there will be 1000 in the first (partial) year. That makes sense, to ramp up production gradually for an all-new design that is different than anything Hyundai has attempted before. Also it allows dealers to make sure they are providing the best possible service to Genesis customers. Keep in mind the service techs will need to be trained on these cars. They ain't no Accent. Once everything is ship-shape and assuming demand is there, Hyundai can take a page from Doritos and "just make more."
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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [backy] by allmet33
Mar 13, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 13, 2008 8:24 am)

Okay...with that logic, I can see 1000 as an intial shipment, but to say 1000 will be shipped period is crazy!
 
I can see a dealer saying that to create a panic amongst buyers and make them think they have to hurry and get one or they won't have a chance at getting one.
 
There have been postings that some dealerships already have stripped down versions of the Genesis for the sole purpose of the techs getting aquainted with them (sure wish they had done that with the Azera).
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Re: Genesis Pricing Leaked! [qbrozen] by bigelm
Mar 13, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Mar 12, 2008 7:42 am)

bigelm posted that same link back in post 1211.
  
just giving props where due.

 
Hehe, thanks!
 
OTOH, I call BS on the 1k count. I don't think Hyundai would spend millions of dollars on a Super Bowl ad to only have 1k hit the dealers. What I CAN see is top tier Hyundai dealers getting the Genesis first but that's pretty much the way it is with all car manufacturers.
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Genesis imports by dborth
Mar 13, 2008 (10:42 am)
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The logistics and hassle factor of importing even a lowly 1,000 vehicles boggles the mind. The raw number of vessels & containers, Customs clearance, spot radar checks at the port, documents in order, etc. Then, getting them to the dealers via contract haulers. Not that easy of a task.
 
One might wonder too how many G8's are initially being imported to the US, as a comparison to Genesis.
 
Upon arrival you can expect some Pontiac & Hyundai dealers to play the "Market Adjustment" game by slapping on an extra price sticker.
 
In the case of Genesis, that might spell salvation for Azera.
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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [backy] by joe97
Mar 13, 2008 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 13, 2008 8:24 am)

Could be, although Hyundai has given no public figures as to how many units would be shipped from S. Korea (unlike the GT-R). Actually, the goal Hyundai looks to achieve (for a full year) is a lot higher, and even if you pro-rate, the 1,000 (let's for first partial year) just doesn't make much sense.
 
Still, point #1 is correct. And I'd agree with your thought process on #2.
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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [joe97] by goldsuv
Mar 13, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 13, 2008 11:47 am)

Automotive News says 20000 Genesis's are being exported in 2008, so if US gets about 1/3(guessing) thats 6000 in 2008. Then they are going to export 45,000 in 2009 so that would be at least 15000. The largest export markets for Hyundai Korea are Us and China.
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Re: A total of only 1,000 Genesis for US market? [goldsuv] by joe97
Mar 13, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: goldsuv (Mar 13, 2008 3:01 pm)

Thanks for the info!!

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