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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 8:13 pm) Long time coming... I haven't posted here in a while, but it seems things have been pretty busy at hyundai. I, too, like the concept car Genesis. It does resemble the Toyota Camry in a way, but it's more luxurious. I also like the front end of the new concept opened at Seoul. I forgot what it was called, but it totally looks like the future of the Tiburon. If the front end looks anything like it, I'm totally buying it! Anyhow, hope to hear from a potential hyundai fan/customer...lol.
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Replying to: kingsalmon (Apr 06, 2007 11:31 pm)  I as a GM, fan am terrified of this vehicle. I think Toyota, is fearful also. A Luxury Vehicle with a powerful refined RWD V8 at Toyota Camry prices is something we could predict but always wonder when ? Well it will be here in a few years and it will be interesting to see how the market reacts. Will car prices have to drop ? Can the manufactors using more expensive labor afford to drop MSRP's ? Hyundai, is using not only inexpensive South Korean, labor but they also buying inexpensive parts to manufactor this vehicle. Will it be "Toyota" like in the Luxury department or will it have content that is also found on Lexus class of vehicles ? If they can give it above average gadgetology aka creature features then this car will steal lots of sales from a lot of segments that want to upgrade without having to pay the high stickers !!!!!! Rocky
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A dog and a cat who just got married riding on the back of a flying pig. That's only slightly more common than Rocky drooling over a Hyundai.  Anyway, the Genesis is set to be the second coming of the LS400. Big, luxurious, powerful, and light on the wallet. The BH (the platform code) is already the size of a BMW 7-series, and there's an even larger version (VI) in the works.
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 8:13 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Apr 07, 2007 4:12 am) Yes bumpy, I am drooling over this Hyuyndai. The Veracruz looks to be about as nice. It's a poor mans Lexus, and if I wasn't so prejudice about buying a foreign car I would line up for one (Genesis) in the near future. Anyway, the Genesis is set to be the second coming of the LS400. Big, luxurious, powerful, and light on the wallet. The BH (the platform code) is already the size of a BMW 7-series, and there's an even larger version (VI) in the works. It's going to kick the snot out of all luxury cars in my estimation. I did not know the platform could stretch to those siszes. I still think Hyundai, should offer the Delphi Magneride suspension as a option on the "Limited-Ultimate" Rocky
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 07, 2007 4:54 am) Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 1:31 am) Let's say, Sonata is 5%~10% cheaper than Camry. Let Genesis be 5%~10% cheaper than the V8 RWD Toyota (LS460), subtract another 10% for not using an up-market brand name. That will still be at least $50,000 for the starting MSRP. |
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Replying to: killerbunny (Apr 07, 2007 5:46 am) The "Ultimate" Genesis is only expected to be in the upper $30K range if it's even that high. The 2008' Veracruz Limited-Ultimate package is the highest priced Hyundai, ever with a $37 and change MSRP. I don't expect the Genesis, Ultimate to be much if any more than that. So $50K isn't going to happen unless they make a 7-series/S-Class competitor which as bumpy said could happen someday soon. Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 6:04 am) After double checking, Hyundai is not a company owned by God himself. They cannot create a super luxury car out of thin air. The Sonata, being a 5% better value than the Camry, is already an achievement. The Genesis will be the same, 5% better value than a car of same quality. After all, being a 5% better value is all you need to capture a market. That's how Lexus beats the crap out the MB in North America.
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Replying to: killerbunny (Apr 07, 2007 6:22 am) I don't know how you can justify saying that Hyundai, won't have a very competitive offering ? One of their targets was the BMW 5 series in handling. I'm not saying this thing will carve up roads like a Bimmer, but in should be able to equal what the Infinti M45 is able to do which also had the 5-series as a target. You also are forgetting the difference in labor rates. The South Koreans, aren't exactly making are wages levels thus they are able to keep those costs down helping them undercut the competition. They are essentially not going to make the margin of profit on having a luxury brand name but they will still make a good profit and give the customer one hell of a vehicle for his buck. I checked out the Sonata vs. Camry and it appears you are taking a loaded out Sonata and comparing it to a base Camry  A loaded out Camry can touch well into the $30K range something a Sonata, won't even come close to. Rocky |
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