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2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis by rockylee
Apr 06, 2007 (8:13 pm)
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Well while I was away from edmunds for a few weeks I didn't totally give up on cars. When I did a little research on the models at the New York Autoshow, I ran across this hot looking Hyundai.
 
When I examined the details I scratched my head and said WOW ! Hyundai, might of just hit the Jackpot. It sure looks great on paper
 
So I think it's very important to start discussing one of the most important launches in Automotive History. If this car is a winner, it could send shock waves around the globe. One could buy a Lexus at Toyota, prices has been quoted.
 
I as a very loyal GM, fan love the design of this future great automobile. I look at it as the Cadillac STS, I always wanted and getting it for a Pontiac Bonneville Price
 
Rocky
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Re: 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis [rockylee] by kingsalmon
Apr 06, 2007 (11:31 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 8:13 pm)

Hey rocky!
 
Long time coming... I haven't posted here in a while, but it seems things have been pretty busy at hyundai. I, too, like the concept car Genesis. It does resemble the Toyota Camry in a way, but it's more luxurious. I also like the front end of the new concept opened at Seoul. I forgot what it was called, but it totally looks like the future of the Tiburon. If the front end looks anything like it, I'm totally buying it!
 
Anyhow, hope to hear from a potential hyundai fan/customer...lol.
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Re: 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis [kingsalmon] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (1:31 am)
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Replying to: kingsalmon (Apr 06, 2007 11:31 pm)

Well kingslamon, we will see if the "on-paper" is as good as it is in person.
 
I as a GM, fan am terrified of this vehicle. I think Toyota, is fearful also. A Luxury Vehicle with a powerful refined RWD V8 at Toyota Camry prices is something we could predict but always wonder when ? Well it will be here in a few years and it will be interesting to see how the market reacts. Will car prices have to drop ? Can the manufactors using more expensive labor afford to drop MSRP's ? Hyundai, is using not only inexpensive South Korean, labor but they also buying inexpensive parts to manufactor this vehicle. Will it be "Toyota" like in the Luxury department or will it have content that is also found on Lexus class of vehicles ? If they can give it above average gadgetology aka creature features then this car will steal lots of sales from a lot of segments that want to upgrade without having to pay the high stickers !!!!!!
 
Rocky
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Guess what I saw outside the window. by bumpy
Apr 07, 2007 (4:12 am)
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A dog and a cat who just got married riding on the back of a flying pig. That's only slightly more common than Rocky drooling over a Hyundai.
 
Anyway, the Genesis is set to be the second coming of the LS400. Big, luxurious, powerful, and light on the wallet. The BH (the platform code) is already the size of a BMW 7-series, and there's an even larger version (VI) in the works.
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Re: 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis [rockylee] by snakeweasel
Apr 07, 2007 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 8:13 pm)

Looks like a pretty good car that Hyundai is coming out with. RWD 300+ HP and large for a reasonable price. This thing just might be a hit. My guess is that there are enough people that like the luxury but don't want to pay for a name to make this work.
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Re: Guess what I saw outside the window. [bumpy] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Apr 07, 2007 4:12 am)

A dog and a cat who just got married riding on the back of a flying pig. That's only slightly more common than Rocky drooling over a Hyundai.
 
Yes bumpy, I am drooling over this Hyuyndai. The Veracruz looks to be about as nice. It's a poor mans Lexus, and if I wasn't so prejudice about buying a foreign car I would line up for one (Genesis) in the near future.
 
Anyway, the Genesis is set to be the second coming of the LS400. Big, luxurious, powerful, and light on the wallet. The BH (the platform code) is already the size of a BMW 7-series, and there's an even larger version (VI) in the works.
 
It's going to kick the snot out of all luxury cars in my estimation. I did not know the platform could stretch to those siszes. I still think Hyundai, should offer the Delphi Magneride suspension as a option on the "Limited-Ultimate"
 
Rocky
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Re: 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis [snakeweasel] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 07, 2007 4:54 am)

snakeweasel, If it's enough to get me to like it that pretty much tells you they have a hit. I'm pretty picky and conservative on my car choices. You won't see my driving a Aztek, like vehicle ever. I like smooth lines.......
 
Rocky
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Re: 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis [rockylee] by killerbunny
Apr 07, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 1:31 am)

Rocky, I like this concept. But I don't think it will be anywhere close to Camry in terms of MSRP. As of now, Sonata is not much cheaper than Camry anyway.
 
Let's say, Sonata is 5%~10% cheaper than Camry. Let Genesis be 5%~10% cheaper than the V8 RWD Toyota (LS460), subtract another 10% for not using an up-market brand name. That will still be at least $50,000 for the starting MSRP.
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Re: 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis [killerbunny] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: killerbunny (Apr 07, 2007 5:46 am)

What ????? Did you not watch the video on this car ? It won't even hit $40,000. Most estimates have a well loaded version "Limited" V8 being no higher than $35K
 
The "Ultimate" Genesis is only expected to be in the upper $30K range if it's even that high. The 2008' Veracruz Limited-Ultimate package is the highest priced Hyundai, ever with a $37 and change MSRP. I don't expect the Genesis, Ultimate to be much if any more than that.
 
So $50K isn't going to happen unless they make a 7-series/S-Class competitor which as bumpy said could happen someday soon.
 
Rocky
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Re: 2008-2009 Hyundai Genesis [rockylee] by killerbunny
Apr 07, 2007 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 6:04 am)

In that case, the Genesis won't be anywhere close to LS460 in terms of performance and quality.
 
After double checking, Hyundai is not a company owned by God himself. They cannot create a super luxury car out of thin air.
 
The Sonata, being a 5% better value than the Camry, is already an achievement. The Genesis will be the same, 5% better value than a car of same quality.
 
After all, being a 5% better value is all you need to capture a market. That's how Lexus beats the crap out the MB in North America.

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