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#5683 of 5692 Re: 40,000 Mile Update [stephen987] by fedlawman Nov 24, 2009 (9:23 am)
Replying to: stephen987 (Nov 24, 2009 5:34 am) The 3.2L Volvo S80 stickers for $39,200. And frequent incentives make them an attractive option. Replies to this message: poodog13 (Nov 24, 2009 11:40 am) fedlawman (Nov 24, 2009 2:57 pm) tjc78 (Nov 25, 2009 5:23 am)
#5684 of 5692 Re: 40,000 Mile Update [fedlawman] by poodog13 Nov 24, 2009 (11:40 am)
Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 24, 2009 9:23 am) I've got to take issue with including the Accord at any trim level in the comparison to the Genesis. It is clearly at the bottom of the continuum of the vehicles listed in terms of luxury appointments and appearance, and also falls significantly below in some of the performance attributes.   If you extend the continuum long enough, I guess any car can be compared (for example, I think that the Mazda6 is a direct competitor for the Accord), but we should limit the comparison in this case to something a bit closer. Replies to this message: fedlawman (Nov 24, 2009 2:57 pm) tjc78 (Nov 25, 2009 5:23 am)
#5685 of 5692 Re: 40,000 Mile Update [poodog13] by fedlawman Nov 24, 2009 (2:57 pm)
Replying to: poodog13 (Nov 24, 2009 11:40 am) Have your sat in and driven an Accord EX-L V6? It's a very nice $30,000 sedan - big, fast, and luxurious.         Replies to this message: tjc78 (Nov 25, 2009 5:23 am)
#5686 of 5692 Luxury qualifications by marvinlee1 Nov 24, 2009 (6:25 pm)
Buyers naturally differ on what constitutes luxury. For me, living on a rough gravel county road, rough road ride and silence are important. I regard the Honda as a bit marginal in that respect, and had reservations about the 2009 Genesis. I hope to learn of clear ride improvement in the 2010 models.
#5687 of 5692 Re Accord as a luxury car by backy Nov 24, 2009 (7:16 pm)
(Sorry, can't reply directly since the wide photos pushed the Reply link off the page)   Leather seating surfaces and plood doesn't turn a nice family sedan into a luxury car, or more precisely a direct competitor for a car like the Genesis (for those who don't think it's a luxury car). The TL is closer to the mark there.
#5688 of 5692 Honda and Acura by obyone Nov 25, 2009 (1:03 am)
won't be taken seriously as a luxury marque simply because they don't offer a V8 nor do they offer RWD. Replies to this message: mickeyrom (Nov 25, 2009 4:31 am) tjc78 (Nov 25, 2009 5:25 am) backy (Nov 25, 2009 6:02 am)
#5689 of 5692 Re: Honda and Acura [obyone] by mickeyrom Nov 25, 2009 (4:31 am)
Replying to: obyone (Nov 25, 2009 1:03 am) What exactly is so luxurious about a V8 or RWD?With V6 putting out 300 HP V8s are nothing but dinosours. Replies to this message: tjc78 (Nov 25, 2009 5:25 am) backy (Nov 25, 2009 6:02 am)
#5690 of 5692 Re: 40,000 Mile Update [fedlawman] by tjc78 Nov 25, 2009 (5:23 am)
Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 24, 2009 2:57 pm) I own a Genesis and have long said that it is a great vehicle but not "luxury" in the true sense of the word. As for the Honda, great car... but it is a midsize car (ok.. "large" without a sunroof technically). No where near as quiet as the Genesis, not as much interior room, no where close to the feature set, FWD, etc. Heck it doesn't even offer a true upscale branded audio system (JBL, Bose, etc) In its class its great, but not against the Genesis (or even Avalon, Maxima etc). Just my .02.
#5691 of 5692 Re: Honda and Acura [mickeyrom] by tjc78 Nov 25, 2009 (5:25 am)
Replying to: mickeyrom (Nov 25, 2009 4:31 am) With V6 putting out 300 HP V8s are nothing but dinosours   Today's modern V8s are putting out power in high 300s, now we are talking! FE isn't all that bad either considering the power
#5692 of 5692 Re: Honda and Acura [mickeyrom] by backy Nov 25, 2009 (6:02 am)
Replying to: mickeyrom (Nov 25, 2009 4:31 am) You can have a "luxurious" car with FWD and a V6, and there's probably more V6s (and even I4s!) in the future of luxury cars due to FE regs. But V8 smoothness and power are traditions in the luxury market, and it's impossible (?) to get near 50/50 weight distribution with FWD, meaning it's harder to provide superior handling compared to RWD. Also there's the torque steer issue with FWD, as engines in luxury cars (even V6s) become more powerful.

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