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What should a Jaguar "be"?

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#3 of 22 My thoughts.... by seminole_kev

Apr 06, 2007 (10:07 am)

Well above all else, I'd love for them to offer a coupe and convertable version of a more basic sports car than they do now. Something along the lines of a Porsche Cayman/Boxster or the ill-fated F-type.
 
As far as engines, really I'm still a sucker for straight-six motors and associate that with Jaguar. I'd like to see them (if staying in the Ford family) take the new Volvo straight six and revise it (within financial reason) to be as sporting as possible. Put that in a sporty car and maybe undercut Porche pricing a little and I'd think they'd have a relative hit on their hands (if the styling is there)
 
That and roll out a proper BMW 3-series competitor. Not the X-type, but a proper sporting sedan, with maybe a little "warmer"/retro interior than the Germans would typically roll out.
 
Those two items could turn Jags fortunes around here I would think somewhat. I'll post some more thoughts a bit later.

#4 of 22 Re: My thoughts.... [seminole_kev] by seminole_kev

Apr 06, 2007 (11:47 am)

Replying to: seminole_kev (Apr 06, 2007 10:07 am)
As far as the total lineup, I'd like to see:
 
1) The before mentioned, smaller and more (relatively) affordable coupe/roadster. Straight six (maybe optional turbo version?) manual or DSG transmission. Doesn't have to be an absolute race car, but a very good handler that doesn't crash over every little bump in the road.
 
2) BMW 3 Series competitor. same engines/trannies as above, Handles very well. A "warmer" interior than the germans. doesn't have to be slathered in wood, just maybe not so grey and bleak as you might see in the average mercedes/bmw.
 
3) A GT that pretty much is inline with the current XK.
 
4) Sort of a blend of BMW 5 series and 7 series in size. Little bit smaller probably than the current XJ. Sporty handling and style, style, style! Not sure on the CX-F size, but probably something along those lines.
 
Looks like 3 and 4 may pretty much be in place, but the first 2 are key to me.
 
If the company does well, throw in:
 
5) A Maserati Quattroporte "type" of car. A big time, stylish sedan.

#5 of 22 Re: My thoughts.... [seminole_kev] by steve_ HOST

Apr 06, 2007 (12:17 pm)

Replying to: seminole_kev (Apr 06, 2007 11:47 am)
I saw a Jag ad in a recent Fortune magazine yesterday - sure looks like they are chasing the luxury label, not the "reasonably" priced sports car one.
 
Maybe they run a different ad campaign for Mother Earth News?

#6 of 22 Re: My thoughts.... [seminole_kev] by british_rover

Apr 06, 2007 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: seminole_kev (Apr 06, 2007 11:47 am)
Jaguar has given up on appealing to the lower end of the market that your number one and two points would address.
 
They just can't compete with the germans and japanese at that price point and/or volume.
 
I have heard rumors that the new 3.2 liter Inline 6 from volvo might find its way into some new jags but that is all they are rumors. The new LR2 is being built at a Jaguar factory with the 3.2 liter inline 6.

#7 of 22 British Rover. by seminole_kev

Apr 06, 2007 (1:01 pm)

What do you think they shoud be/focus on then? And if you say just making tarted up Land Rover defenders with wood and leather I'll banish you from this thread.

#8 of 22 Enable the XJ line to be available at all by euphonium

Apr 07, 2007 (10:15 am)

Lincoln dealerships who are 50 or more miles away from a Jag dealer. Jaguar needs more dealer representation than just one in the state of Oregon!

#9 of 22 Re: My thoughts.... [seminole_kev] by andys120

Apr 07, 2007 (3:56 pm)

Replying to: seminole_kev (Apr 06, 2007 11:47 am)
As far as the total lineup, I'd like to see:
  
1) The before mentioned, smaller and more (relatively) affordable coupe/roadster. Straight six (maybe optional turbo version?) manual or DSG transmission. Doesn't have to be an absolute race car, but a very good handler that doesn't crash over every little bump in the road.
 
Right on the nose with this one, love the idea of a straight six, they're very sweet motors and pretty economical too. Call it the F-Type.
 
2) BMW 3 Series competitor. same engines/trannies as above, Handles very well. A "warmer" interior than the germans. doesn't have to be slathered in wood, just maybe not so grey and bleak as you might see in the average mercedes/bmw.
 
Dunno about this one. IMO the base Jag sedan should be around 5-series size but undersell the BMW pricewise, a tough job.
 
3) A GT that pretty much is inline with the current XK.
Yeah the only thing wrong with the XK is the name, it strikes me as more of an "XJ-S".
 
4) Sort of a blend of BMW 5 series and 7 series in size. Little bit smaller probably than the current XJ. Sporty handling and style, style, style! Not sure on the CX-F size, but probably something along those lines.
 
The CX-F looks pretty good to me but again I don't like the very un-Jag sounding name, CX-F sounds Japanese to me.
 
5) A Maserati Quattroporte "type" of car. A big time, stylish sedan.
 
Oh yeah, an XJ12 with modern-looking styling similar to the CX-F and to top off the line eventually, a high-performance mid-engined GT.

#10 of 22 andys by seminole_kev

Apr 09, 2007 (1:37 pm)

Why do you think they shouldn't have a "3 series" class of car? (just curious, not trying to be a jerk )

#11 of 22 Re: andys [seminole_kev] by seminole_kev

Jun 21, 2007 (4:28 pm)

Replying to: seminole_kev (Apr 09, 2007 1:37 pm)
Hopefully this S-type replacement is a much bigger hit for them. I still see a ton of modern S-types around, and love the style, but it just needed a bit more...well..."something".

#12 of 22 Re: andys [seminole_kev] by andys120

Jul 14, 2007 (6:43 am)

Replying to: seminole_kev (Apr 09, 2007 1:37 pm)
Why do you think they shouldn't have a "3 series" class of car?
 
Well, a 3er seems smallish for a Jag to me. Although the new 3er is probably bigger inside than your Mk. II .

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