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Automotive News & Views Are gas prices fueling your pain? 
10042 messages, Last post on Jul 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM
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Replying to: 1stpik (Jul 09, 2008 9:04 am) The calculator is saying that you will get nothing for your V8 trade and the 4 cyl model you want goes for full sticker and will save you some fraction of that $7 a day of gas. It also mentions that the $900 a year of gas savings gets put towards sales tax, excise tax, drive off the lot day depreciation, and interest on the loan for the difference in value. In other words, you will never see the $900 a year in savings so an OK option is to keep your 3 yr old 4X4 or 8 pass SUV and pay the $900 a year in gas. |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 09, 2008 9:58 pm) Remember the days of $4 gas... those were the good old days.  JRW
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 09, 2008 7:37 am) I think China market is set to go over 15 million new vehicules a year by 2014. India, Russia, south America are following up. >How could there possibly be an answer to this? There aren't any easy answers but it it possible to do something. An inevitable mix of mass transit and oil free technologies. If we don't do this quickly, just driving a car will become a very dear luxury.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 05, 2008 9:24 am) On a different note, at church I have a friend who is a foreman for a construction company and runs a crew of workers,and drives often with his large heavy diesel pickup work truck to several different cities. This truck and the gas it expends is a necessity. I really wonder how those high gas prices affect the construction industry, and transportation. Is it really necessary to have such high gas prices? We need several fuel sources like CNG, Electric cars, hydrogen as soon as possible. We need to spread it out the dependency or else it will sink the economy.
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Replying to: vchiu (Jul 10, 2008 3:42 am) How much longer do you think that China will be able to subsidize gas/energy prices? I believe India is doing the same thing. It must be getting very expensive for these governments. I also believe these countries that are encouraging the expansion of automobile use and oil consumption are making a big long term mistake. It's a mistake that we made and are now paying the price for.
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Replying to: tpe (Jul 10, 2008 4:32 am) |
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Replying to: vchiu (Jul 10, 2008 3:42 am) Saw a report on tv news recently that gas is $11/gallon in Turkey and inflation is over 10 percent. Must be a lot of taxes attached to a gallon. Speaking of "mass" transit - On Tuesday, followed a full size bus for a few miles, heading from a rural town toward a mid-size town about 15 miles away. There was only "one" passenger on this bus. The bus line is subsidized by public funds. Besides individuals taking own actions, such as buying more fuel-efficient vehicles, the public transit companies that are subsidized need to rethink the methods of their services just as the airlines have done. Wonder what private bus lines (Greyhound?) are doing to maximize amount of passengers on their runs and/or cancel unprofittable runs. One possible way for private bus line to make money is to charge fare by amount of people that show up for a run between two cities. A fare on a bus half-full would cost twice as much as a fare on a full-bus run. Maybe a run would not be made unless a threshhold amount of passengers showed up. That threshhold would assure a fair profit for the bus company. Scheduling obviously would be very difficult. |
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My life has changed a bit .In winter i have to use my car so i have beater to take me on my 2 mile drive to the T Station. I use the commuter train and spend 230$ for a monthly pass half of that is refunded by the company and other half is pretax.In summer and grocery run i use my sport bike.The funny thing is my motorcycle which is sporty high performace version had luggage now and give me 50 mpg . for ride below 10 miles and T in summer i ride my pecal cycle. final milage last year 2000 miles on the car 2200 on my bycycle 11000 on my ride - recreational miles are 80% .travelling cross contry and a few states in summer. |
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 10, 2008 5:55 am) Then I rode it back home! A better example may be Mexico, a country where most people can't afford gas, much less a car to put the gas in. Eight years ago we parked our car in Tucson and caught a bus south, and went to Cancun. We took 2+ months to get there, but when we got ready to hit the next town, we'd walk to the bus station and pretty much hop on. If we were going more than a couple of hours down the road we might reserve a seat the next day on a first class express bus, complete with snacks and video screens. We got stuck in one town due to a bus strike, so we walked 2 blocks to the highway and caught a bus run by another company, never missing a beat. There's plenty of empty spaces down there but getting around without a car is pretty easy. Ditto most other places I've visited, except Canada. Trains are the best though - I'd rather ride a train than fly any day.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 10, 2008 5:55 am) The surest way to go out of business is to be inconsistent. Would anyone ride a transit system if they thought it may or may not run, and were not sure what it costs? In addition, on at least some of those routes the carrier has a choice - low ridership, or no ridership, since they need to get the vehicle back to where it is needed. |
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