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Re: Decent [wesleyg] by andre1969
Jul 08, 2008 (8:22 am)

Replying to: wesleyg (Jul 08, 2008 6:56 am)

Don't get wrong, I'm not complaining, my first new car was a 1965 Chevy Impala SS with a 396. I've purchased about 38 new GM cars in the ensuing years, ALL of them with the biggest engine I could get, I think my time is running out.
 
My Dad had a '65 Impala SS396, with the 425 hp setup and a 4-speed. When he had it though, it was just a used car, and he dogged it. It threw a rod one night on a lonely country round around 1971-72, and he just abandoned it there!
 
I'd say that considering the size of the engine and the power, the V-8 Impala is actually pretty economical! Using the older 2007 numbers, it was rated at 18/27, whereas a 5.7 Hemi Charger was 17/25, as was the Crown Vic. I know the Crown Vic isn't really competitive with those other two, but it's the closest Ford I could think of to equate...V-8 and a large-ish sedan. I guess having to run premium does negate a bit of that advantage, though.
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Re: Decent [wesleyg] by circlew
Jul 08, 2008 (8:38 am)

Replying to: wesleyg (Jul 08, 2008 6:56 am)

396 was my favorite engine! Nice ride!
 
Don't be so sure! It just takes ingenuity and desire.
 
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The Big..ahem...small 3 do not want to invest in this for some strange reason...I hope this guy doesn't just up and disappear!!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Decent [andre1969] by circlew
Jul 08, 2008 (8:44 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 08, 2008 8:22 am)

Too bad you didn't keep up that SS396. It's a classic that still makes my mouth water!
 
Here is the Mustang specs which is the reason FORD is still in business outside of their trucks. The problem with these cars is they've gained weight!
 
2008 Ford Mustang GT
 
4.6L V8 Engine
5-speed Manual Transmission or Automatic with overdrive
300 hp and 320 lb.-ft of torque
Vehicle Curb Weight: 3,540 lbs.
0 to 60 mph: 5.1 seconds
1/4 Mile Time: 13.8 seconds
Base Invoice Price: $25,104/Retail Price: $27,260
Destination Charge: $745
15 mpg city/22 mpg highway
$2,485 EPA Estimated Yearly Fuel Cost
EPA Estimates $4.14 cost per 25 miles drive

 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Decent [andre1969] by wesleyg
Jul 08, 2008 (8:47 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 08, 2008 8:22 am)

yeah, my brand new 65 SS was a 396 with 390 horse, 4 speed, which was the second biggest setup at the time. Funny, all my friends were into intermediate size hot cars, Chevelles, GTOs etc, while I always had the biggest cars with the same engines, always liked the big boys and still do today.
 
Spent about 7 of my 31 years in high-speed traffic enforcement and during the late 60;s and very early 70's, we used 427 Biscaynes, 460 LTDs and 455 H.O. Pontiac Catalinas as our Interstate enforcement machines, leaving the 327 Chevies, 351 Fords and small block 400 Catalinas as our city patrol machines, mind you, NOT to save gas as that was something no one cared about. I doubt if we ever averaged more than 10 MPG day after day, betcha the government cares now.
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Re: Decent [circlew] by wesleyg
Jul 08, 2008 (9:02 am)

Replying to: circlew (Jul 08, 2008 8:44 am)

I let a lot of good ones get away during the years, I could be much more comfortably retired if I had held on in storage etc. with some of those bad boys.
 
That 3500 pound Mustang seems awful bloated when my full size SS with six passenger seating is only something like 3700 pounds. You would think that 2800 or 2900 pounds would be doable with the Mustang.
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Re: Decent [circlew] by andre1969
Jul 08, 2008 (9:19 am)

Replying to: circlew (Jul 08, 2008 8:44 am)

Too bad you didn't keep up that SS396. It's a classic that still makes my mouth water!
 
Yeah, it would be a cool car. It was a 2-door hardtop, black. But it was gone before my time. I'll have to ask my mother if she remembers it, but to her, all cars seem to blur together over time.
 
My Dad was pretty rough on cars back then though, so I'm sure if it hadn't thrown that rod, he would have found some other way to destroy it. My Mom had a '66 Catalina convertible when they met, and he ragged it out pretty thoroughly too. In 1972, Mom swapped it with my grandparents for their '68 Impala, a relatively sedate 4-door hardtop with a 327, I think, and then my grandparents used it as a trade for a brand-new '72 Impala. Part of their reasoning was that Mom didn't like driving around in a convertible with an infant, but over the years I also heard that Dad really tore that Catalina up, and it needed major brake work.
 
Today, Dad drives an '03 Buick Regal, and says that if he'd bought that type of car back when he was young, it would have kept him out of A LOT of trouble!
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Re: Decent [wesleyg] by circlew
Jul 08, 2008 (10:57 am)

Replying to: wesleyg (Jul 08, 2008 9:02 am)

That 3500 pound Mustang seems awful bloated when my full size SS with six passenger seating is only something like 3700 pounds. You would think that 2800 or 2900 pounds would be doable with the Mustang
 
Exactly...here's how it was done when cars were cars:
 
Specifications for the 1969, 1970 Ford Mustang:
Wheelbase, inches: 108.0
Length, inches: 187.4
Curb-weight range, pounds: 2,690-3,210 (1969); 2,721-3,240 (1970)
Width, inches: 71.3-71.7
 
Regards,
OW
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But we still are a problem... by circlew
Jul 08, 2008 (11:11 am)
...While oil use in emerging economies such as China and India continue to increase rapidly, the U.S. still uses nearly three times as much oil as China, the second largest crude consumer, according to the CIA's world fact book. A dip in U.S. demand can have an amplified effect on the oil market.
 
How can we change this fact?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: But we still are a problem... [circlew] by nippononly
Jul 08, 2008 (11:52 am)

Replying to: circlew (Jul 08, 2008 11:11 am)

Conserve, thereby using less?
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Re: But we still are a problem... [nippononly] by circlew
Jul 08, 2008 (12:23 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 02, 2008 8:29 am)

See how simple?

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