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Re: The pain index [lemko] by avalon02wh
Jun 12, 2008 (12:52 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 12:41 pm)

"Well, if I exclude putting fuel in my girlfriend's LaCrosse,"
 
That gets into that whole pain/pleasure thing. The moderators would probably toss us out if we talked about it too much. If you are happy with the arrangement that's all that matters.
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Re: Biking this Week [kernick] by larsb
Jun 12, 2008 (12:57 pm)

Replying to: kernick (Jun 12, 2008 12:23 pm)

Congrats on the choice Kernick !! As a Segway/Bike commuter for almost two and a half years now, might I offer some suggestions?
 
1. Try to find a shortcut away from the skinny bridge. You might can go around a block or something a little extra to avoid it. Another option is to walk the bike across the bridge. Will take a little longer, but a guy walking a bike gets driver attention more easily than a rider, whom they tend to "phase out" usually.
 
2. You carry a briefcase or a backpack daily? If so, just keep a little hand towel or washcloth in there to dry off your seat in the morning. Could even keep the towel in a little "seat bag" on the bike which you could get at a bike shop.
 
3. There are cupholders made for bike handlebars. Visit a bike shop and get you one. Then get a little timer to start the coffee maker 15 minutes early or whatever and take your coffee with you.
 
4. Actually, your car does MINUTELY depreciate a little less when you don't drive it, because the miles do not accumulate quite at the same rate. All else equal, a used car with 44,000 miles sells for slightly more than the same car with 48,000 miles. And ask your car insurance people for a cut rate if you are no longer using the car for the daily commute - my company gave me a break when my car stopped being my commute vehicle.
 
5. As far as "being trapped in the rain" you could do what I did - buy some rain gear. I bought a top and bottom from a guy who had used it on his sailboat. Got the set on craigslist for $40. Keeps me dry as a bone on the rare RARE Phoenix wet rides. Monsoon season is coming up here quickly, so I will use the rain gear a lot more very soon !!!
 
6. The leg soreness will eventually go away. Mine held on for about 2 weeks, maybe a little longer. ( But my legs look "buff" these days, so it was building muscle. ) I've lost 15 pounds since I started commuting by bicycle, with no other changes in diet or habits. Blood pressure dropped too, and cholesterol numbers improved.
 
Anyway: good luck, good job, and keep it up !!!
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Re: The pain index [nippononly] by lemmer
Jun 12, 2008 (1:01 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 12, 2008 12:50 pm)

My pain index is slightly less than 1% partly because my commute is short. My wife's index would be around three times that. From the way she complains about it, you would think we were in the 10% range.
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Re: The pain index [avalon02wh] by jimbres
Jun 12, 2008 (1:09 pm)

Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 12:24 pm)

We're at the little or no pain level. We have fairly economical cars & we don't pile on the miles. (For example, our 2006 Honda CR-V, purchased new in November, 2005, has about 7800 miles on the clock. I use it primarily to drive to the railroad station, which is 3 miles away.)
 
Higher fuel prices haven't affected our standard of living. Even so, we're doing what we can to cut out unnecessary trips. Every dollar not spent at the pumps can be spent on something that we enjoy, like good food & wine.
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Re: The pain index [lemmer] by nippononly
Jun 12, 2008 (1:12 pm)

Replying to: lemmer (Jun 12, 2008 1:01 pm)

I'm not too sure about the scale avalon set up though. At 2.7%, I am spending slightly more than 1 dollar of every 40 I take home on gas, and when I put it that way it seems high-ish.
 
Certainly someone spending 1 dollar of every 20 take-home is spending too much on gas, in my mind. I propose modifying the scale a bit: 2.5% is the top end of the comfort/slightly irritating range, 5% should be the severe pain, sit-down-and-figure-out-a-new-plan threshold.
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Re: The pain index [nippononly] by british_rover
Jun 12, 2008 (1:16 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 12, 2008 12:50 pm)

The civic hybrid was available with a manual at one point and I think it still is. If Honda comes out with that CR-Z or whatever they call the CRX replacement it will most likely have a stick as well.
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Re: The pain index [nippononly] by andre1969
Jun 12, 2008 (1:43 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 12, 2008 1:12 pm)

Certainly someone spending 1 dollar of every 20 take-home is spending too much on gas, in my mind. I propose modifying the scale a bit: 2.5% is the top end of the comfort/slightly irritating range, 5% should be the severe pain, sit-down-and-figure-out-a-new-plan threshold.
 
I did a rough estimate, and figure I actually come in around the 5% mark. However, part of that is because of those old cars I have, that I have to exercise every once in awhile. If I relied solely on my Intrepid, I'd probably be down to around 3%.
 
However, my takehome pay is deceptively low, because I max out my 401k. Plus, I don't have a car payment, insurance is fairly low, and my mortgage is a pittance, by today's standards. So while having fuel run 5% of your takehome pay could be brutal for some people, I don't really notice it.
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Re: The pain index [nippononly] by andre1969
Jun 12, 2008 (1:43 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 12, 2008 1:12 pm)

Certainly someone spending 1 dollar of every 20 take-home is spending too much on gas, in my mind. I propose modifying the scale a bit: 2.5% is the top end of the comfort/slightly irritating range, 5% should be the severe pain, sit-down-and-figure-out-a-new-plan threshold.
 
I did a rough estimate, and figure I actually come in around the 5% mark. However, part of that is because of those old cars I have, that I have to exercise every once in awhile. If I relied solely on my Intrepid, I'd probably be down to around 3%.
 
However, my takehome pay is deceptively low, because I max out my 401k. Plus, I don't have a car payment, insurance is fairly low, and my mortgage is a pittance, by today's standards. So while having fuel run 5% of your takehome pay could be brutal for some people, I don't really notice it.
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Re: Biking this Week [larsb] by kernick
Jun 12, 2008 (1:48 pm)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 12, 2008 12:57 pm)

1) That is the main-road. The option is to add 2 miles, or the highway which I never see any bikes on (illegal?).
 
2) I have a cushy seat with a nylon covering. Wouldn't dry out too well.
 
4) But I probably eat a little more which costs more, so it offsets the depreciation savings.
 
5) I have rain gear, but our rain usually involves a lot of lightning. No thanks to riding with wet-brakes (50% efficient?) and in the lightning.
 
6) There is one downside though to increasing your metabolism. Your cells only divide so many times - the faster your metabolism the quicker you age.

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