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The pain index by avalon02wh
Jun 12, 2008 (11:24 am)
I've put together something people can use to measure their pain at the pump.
 
The first step is to take how much you spend in fuel per month and divide it by your net income per month after taxes. A person(s) making $3,000 a month and spending $150 on petrol would have a pain index of 0.05 or 5%.
 
So where do you fit in the pain index?
 
0 to 2.5% - Little or no pain, unless you are in debt up to your eyeballs.
2.5% to 5% - Minor irritation. Most folks should fall in this area. You are watching gasoline prices but the cost is manageable . Your next vehicle should probably be a bit more fuel efficient, however.
5% to 10% - Uncomfortable to very uncomfortable. You probably should be thinking about a more efficient car sooner rather than later.
10% to 15% - Severe pain. Unless you live with your mom or drive a company car you really should sit down and look at your options.
15% plus - This is kidney stone kind of pain. Immediate surgery is needed.
 
This pain index is just a rough estimate. A lot depends on how expensive it is where you live, your debt load, size of your family and so on. Adjustments would also be needed for people with very low incomes or very high incomes.
 
We fall in the 2.5% to 5% range so things are still not having a big impact.
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Re: The pain index [avalon02wh] by lemko
Jun 12, 2008 (11:41 am)

Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 11:24 am)

Well, if I exclude putting fuel in my girlfriend's LaCrosse, I have a very low pain index of around 1.9% and that includes the recent trip out to Carlisle in my new Cadillac DTS using Sunoco Ultra. Girlfriend's pain index is 0% for the last two months as I've been doing her a tremendous favor out of the goodness of my heart.
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Re: Back in the day... [texases] by british_rover
Jun 12, 2008 (11:42 am)

Replying to: texases (Jun 12, 2008 6:28 am)

All of that and W is no Jack Kennedy.
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Re: Biking this Week [kernick] by avalon02wh
Jun 12, 2008 (11:44 am)

Replying to: kernick (Jun 12, 2008 11:23 am)

"I had a large dump-truck come with 1'-2' yesterday, of side-swiping me. "
 
Lucky for him. The paperwork would have been murder. Just kidding, I am glad you are safe. Navigating the roads with a bike is dangerous. It is one of the reasons I will not be taking my bike to work anytime soon. Things are just a wee bit too crazy for me out there on the asphalt jungle.
 
I would get an electric car before I'd do the bike thing in our town.
 
http://www.gemcar.com/
 
"Since I have no cup-holder, I don't take my coffee. "
 
They make thirst aid helmets, beer hats and booze belts just for that kind of situation. Just make sure it is non-alcoholic beer or booze.
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Chat night by pf_flyer HOST
Jun 12, 2008 (11:45 am)
Surprise, surprise... gas prices have been coming up at the chats lately.
 
It's Thursday and that means time again for the longest running chat here in CarSpace, the Subaru Crew! The chat opens at 8:45 pm ET and runs until 10 pm ET. I hope you're able to join us tonight for another enjoyable evening with members of the Crew!
See you there!
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Re: The pain index [avalon02wh] by nippononly
Jun 12, 2008 (11:50 am)

Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 11:24 am)

I calculated my pain index at 2.7%. Unfortunately, most of that is spent in the most fuel-efficient non-hybrid car currently for sale, so where you say my next vehicle should probably be a little more fuel-efficient, my only choice would be hybrid, none of which come with a stick, so I won't be going THAT way!
 
However, I am lucky in that I do a lot of discretionary driving. My initial response to escalating gas prices was to trade cars which saved me close to 50% in gas costs, and the gas hasn't doubled since then, although we are nearing that point. Bottom line is, I will be able to cut back driving if I find myself really needing to save gas money. I won't like it, but I can do it easily, thank goodness.
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Re: The pain index [lemko] by avalon02wh
Jun 12, 2008 (11:52 am)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 11:41 am)

"Well, if I exclude putting fuel in my girlfriend's LaCrosse,"
 
That gets into that whole pain/pleasure thing. The moderators would probably toss us out if we talked about it too much. If you are happy with the arrangement that's all that matters.
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Re: Biking this Week [kernick] by larsb
Jun 12, 2008 (11:57 am)

Replying to: kernick (Jun 12, 2008 11:23 am)

Congrats on the choice Kernick !! As a Segway/Bike commuter for almost two and a half years now, might I offer some suggestions?
 
1. Try to find a shortcut away from the skinny bridge. You might can go around a block or something a little extra to avoid it. Another option is to walk the bike across the bridge. Will take a little longer, but a guy walking a bike gets driver attention more easily than a rider, whom they tend to "phase out" usually.
 
2. You carry a briefcase or a backpack daily? If so, just keep a little hand towel or washcloth in there to dry off your seat in the morning. Could even keep the towel in a little "seat bag" on the bike which you could get at a bike shop.
 
3. There are cupholders made for bike handlebars. Visit a bike shop and get you one. Then get a little timer to start the coffee maker 15 minutes early or whatever and take your coffee with you.
 
4. Actually, your car does MINUTELY depreciate a little less when you don't drive it, because the miles do not accumulate quite at the same rate. All else equal, a used car with 44,000 miles sells for slightly more than the same car with 48,000 miles. And ask your car insurance people for a cut rate if you are no longer using the car for the daily commute - my company gave me a break when my car stopped being my commute vehicle.
 
5. As far as "being trapped in the rain" you could do what I did - buy some rain gear. I bought a top and bottom from a guy who had used it on his sailboat. Got the set on craigslist for $40. Keeps me dry as a bone on the rare RARE Phoenix wet rides. Monsoon season is coming up here quickly, so I will use the rain gear a lot more very soon !!!
 
6. The leg soreness will eventually go away. Mine held on for about 2 weeks, maybe a little longer. ( But my legs look "buff" these days, so it was building muscle. ) I've lost 15 pounds since I started commuting by bicycle, with no other changes in diet or habits. Blood pressure dropped too, and cholesterol numbers improved.
 
Anyway: good luck, good job, and keep it up !!!
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Re: The pain index [nippononly] by lemmer
Jun 12, 2008 (12:01 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 12, 2008 11:50 am)

My pain index is slightly less than 1% partly because my commute is short. My wife's index would be around three times that. From the way she complains about it, you would think we were in the 10% range.
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Re: The pain index [avalon02wh] by jimbres
Jun 12, 2008 (12:09 pm)

Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 11:24 am)

We're at the little or no pain level. We have fairly economical cars & we don't pile on the miles. (For example, our 2006 Honda CR-V, purchased new in November, 2005, has about 7800 miles on the clock. I use it primarily to drive to the railroad station, which is 3 miles away.)
 
Higher fuel prices haven't affected our standard of living. Even so, we're doing what we can to cut out unnecessary trips. Every dollar not spent at the pumps can be spent on something that we enjoy, like good food & wine.

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