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10042 messages, Last post on Jul 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM
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Consumers Report had a note that they drove a Camry at 55 mph and got 40 mpg, increasing to 65 mph got 35 mpg, and increasing to 75 dropped the mileage to 30 mpg. It also indicated that adding a roof rack container dropped the mileage at 65 from 35 to 29 mpg. They didn't indicate which model Camry or engine, but it would appear to be an I-4 engine. I don't know what the EPA criteria is for speed when it publishes highway mpg.
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jun 12, 2008 3:47 am) It never ceases to amaze me that Hawaii has "interstate" highways.
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Replying to: 1stpik (Jun 12, 2008 5:00 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 5:02 am) The biggest problem I see in Hawaii is the electricity. They produce most with oil. They are used to high gas prices. In April I paid less for RUG in Hilo than in San Diego. They do not have designer gas and probably take whatever the oil companies send them. Shell is almost always the least expensive there. Not the case in CA where it is one of the highest priced. I bought diesel for my tractor yesterday at $5.19 per gallon. Regular was $4.69 at my local Shell station. I would have to drive 15 mies to get diesel at $4.79 per gallon. I only use about 5 gallons every 6-8 months. Costco was at $4.33 on Tuesday. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 11, 2008 12:21 pm)  Free of charge Plan on $0.50 per gallon increases in fuel every year from now until we can generate huge massive quantities of alternate fuels. I actually think this 'number' is conservative. A 10-15% increase annually might be more accurate. National Avg of course, specific states may be well higher. 2006 .. $2.35 Avg --> Done 2007 .. $2.85 Avg --> Done 2008 .. $3.35 Avg --> Assured now 2009 .. $3.85 Avg 2010 .. $4.35 Avg 2011 .. $5.00 Avg 2012 2013 .. $6.00 Avg 2014 2015 .. $7.00 Avg 2016 2017 .. $8.00 Avg 2018 2019 .. $9.00 Avg 2020 2021 .. $10.00 Avg $0.50 / gal increases don't seem like much at all but as you can see they add up
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 4:16 am) So what do you think happens next? I would guess either a) the truckers go back to work and make what they can, or b) they stay "stopped", the companies and stores don't get their products and they are forced to pay the truckers more. Sometimes this is the way the market works - it is a form of negotiating. If American truckers stop en masse and for long enough then they would force higher rates also. Either the companies absorb the cost, or they pass it on to the consumer if they can. The airlines are passing along their higher fuel costs in various ways also. |
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When the steel industry violated the wage and price guidelines and sharply raised steel prices in 1962, President Kennedy, visibly angry, went on TV and condemned the action. Shortly after, prices came down. This demonstrates how a strong president can deal with those who only care about power and profits. How about it, W?
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 6:24 am) Pretty different situation - iron ore was mined here, refined here, turned into steel products here. Oil and gas are global, we're paying the same as Europe, etc, don't see how an angry comment from anybody changes that.
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some Haikus relating to the pain: Oh the price of Gas My budget stretches too far Only half a tank *************************** Four dollars my gosh I cannot afford this gas Can't we just all walk? *************************** One gallon four bucks Are five and six coming soon? How I love my bike *************************** Anyone care to add a few? 
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