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#8678 of 10042 Re: Oil Could Hit $400 a Barrel by 2018 [avalon02wh] by bpizzuti Jun 12, 2008 (4:27 am)
Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 3:08 am) How much do you want to bet that AEA holds oil futures as part of their investments? That's the company that that admiral is CEO of now. He would therefore consider $400 a barrel in 2018 a good thing because he'll get it 5 years from now. Oil futures are having less and less to do with the realities of supply and demand, and MUCH less to do with the real oil and gasoline market. Everyone could stop using gas and, the way things are, people would still be trading these futures for inflated prices...probably because they know no one would pay that much for actual delivery (which is what futures were originally for...to lock in a later delivery price).   Oh and $5.18 for diesel doesn't impress me. Up here in my area I saw diesel for $5.34 yesterday.
#8679 of 10042 Re: Mileage Vs Speed [tankbeans] by andre1969 Jun 12, 2008 (4:40 am)
Replying to: tankbeans (Jun 11, 2008 6:03 pm) Now for me I recently found that all things being equal, for me, if I travel at 65 in my 03 Accord 4-cyl I get about the same mileage as I do going 55. What does this mean, I don't know, but I like it because 55 is a hard speed to maintain especially on the freeway, I can't take the monotony and all the dirty looks.   The '03 Accord has a 5-speed automatic, and I think both 4th and 5th gear are pretty tall. I wonder if at 55 mph, the engine just isn't revving enough in top gear to have much power, so it might downshift more often, in situations like when you come to a hill, have to pass a slower moving car, etc? At 65, it might rev just high enough that it can do most of its highway driving in 5th gear.   Also, the faster you drive, the further you can coast when you take your foot off the gas, so that will partially negate the increased fuel burned getting up to those higher speeds.
#8680 of 10042 Mileage vs Speed by bergyone Jun 12, 2008 (4:44 am)
Consumers Report had a note that they drove a Camry at 55 mph and got 40 mpg, increasing to 65 mph got 35 mpg, and increasing to 75 dropped the mileage to 30 mpg. It also indicated that adding a roof rack container dropped the mileage at 65 from 35 to 29 mpg. They didn't indicate which model Camry or engine, but it would appear to be an I-4 engine. I don't know what the EPA criteria is for speed when it publishes highway mpg. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jun 12, 2008 2:28 pm)
#8681 of 10042 Re: Oil Could Hit $400 a Barrel by 2018 [snakeweasel] by 1stpik Jun 12, 2008 (5:00 am)
Replying to: snakeweasel (Jun 12, 2008 3:47 am) "Oh Hawaii isn't that big..."   It never ceases to amaze me that Hawaii has "interstate" highways. Replies to this message: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 5:02 am) gagrice (Jun 12, 2008 5:29 am)
#8682 of 10042 Re: Oil Could Hit $400 a Barrel by 2018 [1stpik] by lemko Jun 12, 2008 (5:02 am)
Replying to: 1stpik (Jun 12, 2008 5:00 am) Never been to Hawaii, but do the islands have bridges connecting them? Replies to this message: gagrice (Jun 12, 2008 5:29 am)
#8683 of 10042 No by 1stpik Jun 12, 2008 (5:15 am)
No.
#8684 of 10042 Re: Oil Could Hit $400 a Barrel by 2018 [lemko] by gagrice Jun 12, 2008 (5:29 am)
Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 5:02 am) There is about 25-35 miles of ocean between the islands. I imagine the Interstates are highways paid for by the Feds. Hawaii and Alaska get the most Federal money per capita. Honolulu has over a million people on an Island you can drive around in 2 hours. They have a lot of traffic. I know when I used the bus service in the 1980s it was almost always standing room only. So It will be interesting to see if they can handle the people that quit driving because of higher gas prices.   The biggest problem I see in Hawaii is the electricity. They produce most with oil. They are used to high gas prices. In April I paid less for RUG in Hilo than in San Diego. They do not have designer gas and probably take whatever the oil companies send them. Shell is almost always the least expensive there. Not the case in CA where it is one of the highest priced.   I bought diesel for my tractor yesterday at $5.19 per gallon. Regular was $4.69 at my local Shell station. I would have to drive 15 mies to get diesel at $4.79 per gallon. I only use about 5 gallons every 6-8 months. Costco was at $4.33 on Tuesday.
#8685 of 10042 Re: Based on today's info [larsb] by kdhspyder Jun 12, 2008 (6:22 am)
Replying to: larsb (Jun 11, 2008 12:21 pm) I've said it multiple times on these threads....and I'll stick by these numbers.... Free of charge   Plan on $0.50 per gallon increases in fuel every year from now until we can generate huge massive quantities of alternate fuels. I actually think this 'number' is conservative. A 10-15% increase annually might be more accurate. National Avg of course, specific states may be well higher.   2006 .. $2.35 Avg --> Done 2007 .. $2.85 Avg --> Done 2008 .. $3.35 Avg --> Assured now 2009 .. $3.85 Avg 2010 .. $4.35 Avg 2011 .. $5.00 Avg 2012 2013 .. $6.00 Avg 2014 2015 .. $7.00 Avg 2016 2017 .. $8.00 Avg 2018 2019 .. $9.00 Avg 2020 2021 .. $10.00 Avg $0.50 / gal increases don't seem like much at all but as you can see they add up Replies to this message: nippononly (Jun 12, 2008 6:51 am) avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 10:10 am) kdhspyder (Jun 12, 2008 4:24 pm)
#8686 of 10042 Re: Oil Could Hit $400 a Barrel by 2018 [lemko] by kernick Jun 12, 2008 (6:24 am)
Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2008 4:16 am) Ninety thousand independent truckers in Spain have stopped their vehicles at $7-$8 a gallon and gone on strike. American truckers probably have a lower threshold.   So what do you think happens next? I would guess either a) the truckers go back to work and make what they can, or b) they stay "stopped", the companies and stores don't get their products and they are forced to pay the truckers more.   Sometimes this is the way the market works - it is a form of negotiating. If American truckers stop en masse and for long enough then they would force higher rates also. Either the companies absorb the cost, or they pass it on to the consumer if they can.   The airlines are passing along their higher fuel costs in various ways also.
#8687 of 10042 Back in the day... by lemko Jun 12, 2008 (6:24 am)
When the steel industry violated the wage and price guidelines and sharply raised steel prices in 1962, President Kennedy, visibly angry, went on TV and condemned the action. Shortly after, prices came down.   This demonstrates how a strong president can deal with those who only care about power and profits.   How about it, W? Replies to this message: texases (Jun 12, 2008 6:28 am) british_rover (Jun 12, 2008 11:42 am)

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