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Re: Mileage Vs Speed [bergyone] by tankbeans
Jun 11, 2008 (6:03 pm)

Replying to: bergyone (Jun 11, 2008 12:49 pm)

I've had this exact question up on here. In fact it was just last week that I asked. I read a little bit into it, and found that keeping around 55 is best. I found a chart about the efficiency of I believe it was a Mazda, I can't remember.
 
Anyway, what I saw was that the MPG increased as you got to 55 and then decreased as you went past 55.
 
Meaning that going much slower than 55 is going to be detrimental to your mileage as well as going above 55. Now for me I recently found that all things being equal, for me, if I travel at 65 in my 03 Accord 4-cyl I get about the same mileage as I do going 55. What does this mean, I don't know, but I like it because 55 is a hard speed to maintain especially on the freeway, I can't take the monotony and all the dirty looks.
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Re: Solar Satellites to indirectly produce hydrogen for cars [no_one] by avalon02wh
Jun 11, 2008 (6:07 pm)

Replying to: no_one (Jun 10, 2008 7:26 pm)

I think the idea is to build it using material already in space.
 
http://www.permanent.com/
 
Are we off topic or what.....
 
RUG is up to $4.10 here.
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Re: Nuke You Lur [oldfarmer50] by steve_ HOST
Jun 11, 2008 (6:10 pm)

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jun 11, 2008 3:38 pm)

I think the Hydro Quebec - NYS deal dates back further than that. I toured Manic-2 and Manic-5 back in 1999 and these guys aren't pikers when it comes to generating power.
 
Hydro Quebec is like the TVA; they won't be happy until every last stream and rivulet is dammed up. Going nuke would avoid more of that.
 
I remember some reservoir was getting to full pool up that way on my trip (in Labrador, iirc). Folks were suing because the engineering was screwed up on that one and full pool hit the contour lines some 20 (?) feet higher than what their permit allowed.
 
Welcome to radical common sense and distrust of the easy engineering fix.
 
[ok Avalon - gas is holding at $4.07 RUG at most places here ]
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Re: Gas, Gas, Gas! [gagrice] by avalon02wh
Jun 11, 2008 (6:20 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 11, 2008 5:03 am)

"14 MPH wind is not a breeze in my book. "
 
Yeah, that isn't really fast enough to be called a breeze. We need 20 to 25 mph to be called a breeze here in ND. Maybe that is why ND has the highest wind energy potential in the U.S. The windmills are growing like weeds. http://www.awea.org/pubs/factsheets/Top_20_States.pdf
 
Makes me think I should buy one of those Zenn electric cars and be gasoline free.
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Re: Just a possibility... [bpizzuti] by british_rover
Jun 11, 2008 (6:21 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jun 11, 2008 4:38 am)

That could happen but at least in India it is not.
 
Every news article I can find says that the state run oil companies are loosing millions of dollars a day with the way fuel prices are now.
 
Even with the recent increases in fuel prices they are still losing money.
 
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C06%5C10%5Cstory_10-6-2008_p- g5_32
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=aj.xKO5fCqSc&refer=india
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oh goody! by nippononly
Jun 11, 2008 (6:28 pm)
Gas is up another $0.08 at my usual place overnight, to $4.55 for regular. That is a rise of $0.18 in a single week, as it was $4.37 when I filled up last Wednesday. I think I will just amuse myself around the house this weekend, the car can just sit until Monday morning....
 
These gas prices make the whole owning-a-car thing a lot less fun.
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Re: Gas, Gas, Gas! [gagrice] by british_rover
Jun 11, 2008 (6:33 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 11, 2008 5:03 am)

As snake said 14 mph is a moderate breeze according to the scale.
http://www.stormfax.com/beaufort.htm
 
Also AVAV has gotten the wind turbines to generate power down under 12 mph using newer designs.
 
Lastly think about what happens in urban settings where the wind builds up in tight spaces hits the side of a building and then roars up to the roof. I had this happen today walking through West Hartford. I turned a corner and all of a sudden there was a good 20 plus mph wind running down the side of the street that was probably accelerating to an even higher speed when it tried to climb the building at the end of the street.
 
Early adopters of architectural wind
 
As you can see they are using them all over the country and at least one place in the UK so they work in a variety of conditions.
 
Ha what are the odds another stock I own has a set of wind turbines on one of their US buildings.
 
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Re: Gas, Gas, Gas! [british_rover] by steve_ HOST
Jun 11, 2008 (6:36 pm)

Replying to: british_rover (Jun 11, 2008 6:33 pm)

This power plant gallery site is pretty entertaining. It has pics of 272 wind energy installations around the world, geo-thermal plants as well as the usual dams and coal fired power plants.
 
Power Plants Around the World
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Oil Could Hit $400 a Barrel by 2018 by avalon02wh
Jun 11, 2008 (6:37 pm)
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jun2008/gb20080610_688373.htm
 
This is one of those headlines I read and just wonder. Are people that delusional.
 
I am going to go outside now and see if pigs can fly.
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Re: oh goody! [nippononly] by imidazol97
Jun 11, 2008 (6:42 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 11, 2008 6:28 pm)

I'm used to large moves. You must not be used to 25 cent jumps in your area. And the graph only shows the bumps in the average price for the area. The portion that routinely has lower prices has exaggerated jumps back to the typical area price when the companies bump things up.
 
Filled up both cars at $3.94 today minus 10 cent Kroger discount.
 
San Fran in red; Dayton in blue; crude, green.
 
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