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Re: Nuke You Lur [flash11] by avalon02wh
Jun 10, 2008 (5:33 pm)

Replying to: flash11 (Jun 10, 2008 4:58 pm)

The following story makes some good points about nuclear energy.
http://www.thebulletin.org/web-edition/features/the-reality-of-frances-aggressiv- e-nuclear-power-push
 
I would agree that we could build a few nuclear plants. Are the CANDU reactors the best way to go? The current refurbishment at the Bruce Power Plant in Canada may influence how many more units get built.
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ideas/article/283653
 
One thing we can all be assured of, nuclear plants are not going to spring up as fast as ethanol plants did and still are.
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Odd, people are reacting to high gas prices by avalon02wh
Jun 10, 2008 (7:05 pm)
CNNMoney is reporting that the average Prius spends 17 hours on the dealer lot. I wonder if the people are negotiating with the truck driver that delivers the car.
 
I suppose the hot gift this upcoming holiday season will be a Prius with a Wii inside.
 
Dear Santa
 
I have been a good boy this past year...........................
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Re: Solar Satellites to indirectly produce hydrogen for cars [flash11] by no_one
Jun 10, 2008 (7:26 pm)

Replying to: flash11 (Jun 10, 2008 5:09 pm)

Errr.... solar energy is great and all, but the cost of building anything in space is ridiculous. Solar Satellite is not the answer.
 
It costs $10,000/kg to send something to space. Current solar panels generate 44 watts/kg.
 
Say we want to build a Gigawatt power station, enough to power 1/1000th of America. Lets assume that the transfer equipment back to Earth takes up no weight.
 
The cost of such a plant would be $227 billion, just to launch it. Ignoring, of course, the ridiculous further costs of designing the craft, getting large scale microwave power transfer to work, cooling the bloody thing, assembling it, getting it to fit in rockets such that the $10,000 /kg applies, and many more things I haven't thought of in this hasty assessment.
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Good time to buy a used pickup? by dave8697
Jun 10, 2008 (7:31 pm)
My Sonoma only gave me 22.9 mpg this last tank. Ends up as $5.10 per round trip to work.
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Re: Good time to buy a used pickup? [dave8697] by andre1969
Jun 10, 2008 (7:40 pm)

Replying to: dave8697 (Jun 10, 2008 7:31 pm)

That Sonoma has the 4.3 V-6, right? 22.9 mpg doesn't sound too bad for something like that.
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Re: Nuke You Lur [flash11] by steve_ HOST
Jun 10, 2008 (7:54 pm)

Replying to: flash11 (Jun 10, 2008 4:58 pm)

China has purchased the technology and built several Candu reactors already, why not the US ?
 
Even better, why not just buy the power? The grid is already in place, and we can let Canada deal with the waste and siting issues.
 
I don't remember if anyone posted this link - hard to keep up in here:
 
Extreme Driving Techniques for Extreme Fuel Economy
 
That article talks about the "requirement" of owning a Scan Gauge: Choice of Hypermilers Everywhere
 
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Gas prices fuel dip in fishing by kafuka2002
Jun 10, 2008 (8:11 pm)
This is really hard to believe,in Fla the charter boats are running non stop and the recreational fishing has increased at least 10 percent over last year.Every boat ramp and marina is full and overflowing with no parking and you need traffic cops on the water,The only people we have seen inpacted by high fuel prices are the watermen.
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Re: Just a possibility... [texases] by bpizzuti
Jun 11, 2008 (4:38 am)

Replying to: texases (Jun 10, 2008 3:00 pm)

any country subsidizing energy below the 'market' cost is setting themselves up for trouble.
 
Not necessarily...this is what I was talking about before. A growing economy produces more revenue for the government in the form of increased taxes. That increased tax revenue MAY (key word) be greater than the amount of money spent subsidizing gas prices.
 
It's a theory we can't really check, because most of these countries (including China, as mentioned) won't let us look at their "real" books. But theoretically it's sound...Sony and Nintendo basically sell consoles at a loss to make money on the games. HP sells inkjet printers at a loss to make money on the ink. A country could theoretically sell gas at a loss (in effect) in order to make money on the ensuing economic growth. The business model in itself has already been proven.
 
So some of these subsidies in other countries may go on for quite a bit longer than some thing. Though i realize some have already given them up, others haven't.
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Re: Gas prices fuel dip in fishing [kafuka2002] by gagrice
Jun 11, 2008 (4:39 am)

Replying to: kafuka2002 (Jun 10, 2008 8:11 pm)

Tourism of every sort is up in the USA. The cheap dollar has made the US a good place to vacation. Especially for Europeans that are used to high priced fuel. Ours is still cheap by EU standards. Disney claims 28% increase this Spring over last year. Hawaii is up 18% over last year. Not everyone going to Florida is interested in Disney World. Makes sense that deep sea fishing would be booming.
 
It is also better for US citizens. Trying to go to Europe will be a real shocker with the exchange rate so high.
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Re: Gas, Gas, Gas! [british_rover] by bpizzuti
Jun 11, 2008 (4:43 am)

Replying to: british_rover (Jun 10, 2008 4:42 pm)

Both sound great...I do like the idea of integrating turbines into architecture like that. Just think...get the efficiency and installation right, and buildings could theoretically be largely self-powered, especially if you include a battery system for those times when the wind dies down a bit.
 
Hmm, self-powered buildings...I like that, come to think of it. Interesting sales slogan too.

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