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Replying to: future4u (May 31, 2008 8:17 am) encourage curiosity and the seeking of truth else you be nothing more than a common , useless critic . me: so you're suggesting that we all should disbelieve the scientists who tell us the Earth is round, and that you can't burn water in your car engine? Be skeptical? We'll all just have to try and sail around the world or put water in our car and try it right?  I've got a duck BTW that eats corn and lays 1 oz golden eggs. I swear it - it lays gold! Send me $299 and I'll send you one of its chicks.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 31, 2008 6:31 am) learn the true definition of " Ponzi " , and " Scam " . It is quite apparent that you subscribe to and echo the words of a paid character assassin and proven liar . That's an easy trap to fall into . It's human nature to believe a falsehood as digging for the truth requires time and effort . The truth is like gold , it takes some digging . The truth is also like cream , it eventually floats to the top . |
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Replying to: kernick (May 31, 2008 9:26 am) when they run dry of any sensible rebuttal ? Sorry , I can't do the research for you . That responsibility lies with the individual . And yes , critics are useless if they are too darn lazy to seek out the truth .
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Replying to: future4u (May 31, 2008 9:47 am) And yes , critics are useless if they are too darn lazy to seek out the truth . Truth is I did do research on you supposed claims of 100 MPG conversion. All I get are websites with the same sales pitch, over and over. NO valid tests by independents. Only stories of lawsuits, indictments and Prison time. I would be careful whom I associate with. For those that want to try it, there are kits online for $50 that do exactly the same thing as the $995 kits. |
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Replying to: larsb (May 31, 2008 6:41 am) Quite simply, our problem is us and the choices we have made. Our choices have been driven by our addiction and the ready availability of cheap oil. It is arguable, and I tend to agree, that we will have an ever increasing need for energy. In order to meet that need, we have found that the simplest thing to do is burn something. We have found it incredibly difficult to break away from the lure of cheap, readily available things to burn, including and probably most especially oil. We never have had sufficient motivation to do so. IF alternatives are viable now or in the near future, they always have been. Cheap, easy oil and other sources just overshadowed the available alternatives. FWIW I think we are a long way from getting away from burning stuff in any serious degree. We face a bit more than mere economic hardship as we break this addiction. It will take a paradigm shift in the way we think. I am confident we will do it, and if expensive oil is the catalyst, so be it. It will be painful, turbulent, fortunes will be made and lost, wars will be fought. Breaking an addiction is never an easy undertaking.
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Replying to: future4u (May 31, 2008 9:47 am) copout, shuck and jive, sidestep, na na na na na If you know that this works, if it indeed does work, and you believe in it and hope to promote it, you should be more than willing to show how you know it works, how it works, and why you believe so strongly in it.
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Replying to: future4u (May 31, 2008 8:17 am) Rather than ridiculing my posting, post something about your expertise that supports your ability to say it scientifically has to work. Or post links from someone who has done a blind study? Otherwise your posts sound a lot like the global warming posters'. What degrees did you say you have in science? |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 31, 2008 6:20 am) I worked 20-30 hours a week through most of college when classes were in session.My last semester of school I tried to find a second job but just couldn't find one that fit with my first job schedule and my school schedule. I worked 40-50 hours a week during fall, winter, spring and summer breaks. When I got out of college I worked an average of 70 hours a week at two different jobs. I worked around 40ish hours a week at my shop then another 30ish hours at UPS. Finally when peak season rolled around from Thanksgiving to New Years I worked 80 plus hours a week. I would cut back at the shop to under 40 hours a week because I was working at UPS sometimes from 2:00 PM to 2:00 AM monday through Thursday and Friday 6 to midnight with the occasional sunday night thrown in just for good measure. |
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Replying to: mattandi (May 31, 2008 11:33 am) Sounds about right to me too - if you are hyping something you need to be prepared to show the unwashed masses how it works. It's pretty apparent that you are just promoting another flavor of snake oil future4u, especially since you are unable and unwilling to make any modicum of effort to back up your claims. Take it to a forum where people do believe in the quick fix, easy answer and golden goose.
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Replying to: steve_ (May 31, 2008 2:39 pm) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZZhxW5ym68
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