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Replying to: gagrice (May 31, 2008 6:31 am) NO kidding. I think "future guy" has something to gain personally by pushing this product. Maybe someone should submit it to Myth Busters so they can test is. I'm not going to buy something like that based on a hope and a prayer. I want to see concrete non biased test results. |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 31, 2008 6:31 am) As for the water turned into gasoline myth, I was listening to a national car talk show from Detroit WJR 760 this morning and they still advertise the tornado fan blade unit that fits inside your air intake. I'm still trying to figure out how a fan blade adding air resistance to the intake of my 3800 Series II is going to affect the air intake into the cylinders where the fuel is sprayed in by injectors. The air travels into the plenum volume and then is sucked through air tubes that are about 8 inches long that arch over the top of the air plenum dome to take the air to the cyllinders (something related to tuning the air pressure pulses for better operation. I consider the tornado in the same category of transfer devices as the gas from water devices. They transfer money from the sucker's pocket to the sellers' pockets. Everytime there's a rise in prices of fuel, these gimmicks come out of the woodwork. |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 31, 2008 6:20 am) Well, I'm thinking more in terms of some poor working stiff who's the head of household, and not some college kid that has Mommy and Daddy to pick up the tab. When you're out on your own, you do what it takes to keep a roof over your head. Both of my grandmothers worked...in fact, the one who's still alive worked up until she was 70. Her mother even worked, almost up till the day she died. She worked a concessions stand at a local movie theater. That was a long time ago though, as she died in 1969. I dunno if there are too many seniors manning the concession stands these days. They probably wouldn't mingle too well with the teens you usually see there. When I ran into financial problems back in the 90's, I already had a part time job but it wasn't cutting it. So I went out and got a better part time job. Also ended up having to move in with my grandmother for a couple years and rent the condo out, and when I could afford to move back in, I took in roommates. You do what it takes. I'm in a house now, and still have roommates. I could probably afford to not have them by this point, but the extra money's nice. And they don't get on my nerves. Usually.  I was amazed at Von's last night. Two young guys in the line ahead of us, buying food. They were digging in their pockets for the money to pay. Everything they bought was processed JUNK FOOD. Absolute crap from Cocoa Puffs to frozen pizza. I have a hard time losing sleep over losers like that. But again, do you think these young guys were parents pulling down a 40 hour per week job at WalMart, trying to keep their families afloat? Or were they college kids, who haven't necessarily gotten a dose of the real world yet?
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Replying to: avalon02wh (May 30, 2008 12:31 pm) me: That might be a typo on their part. I haven't seen that thru most areas thru the years. The difference is $0.20 most stations. I do use 93 octane so I know. And I'l be glad when they get the ethanol out of the gas, and it seems we might be headed that way. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 31, 2008 3:34 am) me: if that's really true, it's too bad. But the franchisee whether it be with a Mc'D's a gas station, or whatever should not become a franchisee if the terms aren't fair. Walk-away!! I certainly wouldn't sign an agreement where the rent isn't spelled out long-term or has a low maximum increase, or any of those other terms. A good lawyer would have also advised her against these things. I would have to say the same thing goes for independent truck drivers. You have to be a smart and good negotiator. Don't get into deals where you can't recover your diesel costs and make a living. The thing with the independents though is that some truckers are desperate, taking the business, and thus ruining the negotiating power of all them. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 31, 2008 6:57 am) You might want to get together with 3 other coworkers in that place and rent a 4-bedroom house. I see the Walmart and McD jobs as being for teens, college students, retirees, and for a few months between jobs for adults. If you think you can work 1-job like that and afford a house, car, and family ... that's dreaming. You better get 2 more part-time jobs and some roommates. Better yet - get a skill or open a business. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 31, 2008 5:43 am) It's natural and prudent to be a skeptic , but skepticism should encourage curiosity and the seeking of truth else you be nothing more than a common , useless critic . One doesn't have to be an Einstein to realize that if something " WORKS " it " WORKS " ! |
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excellent article you provided there. Hard to disagree with those points the writer made. Higher ghastly prices should sway the inventive powers to create good and viable alternative energies that the masses can tap in to. To me the answer to ICE's is electrical propulsion. Heck, if battery production gets smarter, like China's BYD should be able to pull off, and they can make them so they stay intact and don't regenerate too quickly, we can make this pup work. That is what has my rapt attention, car battery production. Here in Cochise County, the former home of Geronimo and Chief Cochise, the winds blow a lot of the time. Wind-generated electricity is being discussed. Our energy rates are affordable right now and the growth in Cochise County is not head over heels(we're far enough away from Tucson, 80 miles away, so workers don't relocate here that work in Tucson), so viable energy sources can come about and not be sucked out of existence over time by excessive growth and mis-management. Hopefully the energy powers-that-are will get a crackin' and either develop new electrical sources or work hard to keep our electrical power abundant and cost-effective for everyone. My last two bills were '0', but that was because my initial depost for service was credited back to my wife and I. That happens after one year of paying your bill on time. Such a deal. So I have a lot of incentive and interest in electrically-powered cars. I'll keep y'all posted on that progress from the tumbleweed connection of SE Arizona here. 
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Replying to: future4u (May 31, 2008 8:17 am) Einstein to realize that if something " Rather than ridiculing my posting, post something about your expertise that supports your ability to say it scientifically has to work. Or post links from someone who has done a blind study? Otherwise your posts sound a lot like the global warming posters'. What degrees did you say you have in science? |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (May 31, 2008 8:26 am) me: well only the Creator can create energy. All people can do is harness what we were given, by converting it to fuels or electricity. The thing you might want to consider is that if oil is running short and you don't want to expand the use of natural gas and coal to produce the electricity then you had better cover the country with windmills. Wh? There are millions of homes and buildings that use oil for heat. Take the oil away and you need to build millions and millions of windmills before you have enough extra electricity to power your first battery powered car. I'm buying an oil heated house, and if the price of oil and gas keep at the current or go up, I will start using electric. Millions of people in my area could do similar over the years. And we'll burn wood and coal. |
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