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Re: Gas prices - Chattanooga, TN [jac0bsdad] by steve_ HOST
May 26, 2008 (6:23 pm)

Replying to: jac0bsdad (May 26, 2008 5:35 pm)

I bet the I-24/I-75 junction area is still horrible with traffic.
 
I have family down there and I remember when some of the kinfolk would drive to Georgia to save on gas since the taxes were cheaper. Now you can't afford to waste the gas heading to the state line.
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Re: Gas prices - Chattanooga, TN [steve_] by jac0bsdad
May 26, 2008 (6:37 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (May 26, 2008 6:23 pm)

Yes sir.. It is still bad.. I used to live in Cleveland, TN about 38 miles north of downtown Chatt.. Had to move closer because my RT drive was about 80 miles each day.. When U get to Ooltewah, TN they have made it into 4 or 5 lanes for awhile then it goes back to 2 lanes heading into downtown and 2 veering off into GA.. Actually, the prices in Georgia are now more expensive or the same as compared to southeast TN.. I emailed a frat brother of mine in Dallas,TX about a different topic and he asked how much gas was here because he used to love in Atlanta, anyway, when I told him he was surprised because we were about .13 cents more a gal then in Dallas.. It has gone up .08 cents since last week.. One day it went up .17 cents a gallon from the time of the morning commute until the afternoon... Just a heads up to you, if you are planning to come down to see your kinfolk, if you come through Knoxville,TN, be prepared to take I-640 around K-town.. The state is working on I-40 in downtown Knoxville and will be doing so for 14 months.. It will be a true pain come football season to go see the Vols, if I can afford the gas prices by then, plus the tickets.. ha-ha..
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Re: Gas prices - Chattanooga, TN [jac0bsdad] by steve_ HOST
May 26, 2008 (7:48 pm)

Replying to: jac0bsdad (May 26, 2008 6:37 pm)

I usually do that drive in October when I visit my sister in Virginia and we drive down in her car. Malfunction junction just keeps shifting around Knoxville, lol.
 
I know all about the Ooltewah Owls too.
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Re: Gas prices - Chattanooga, TN [steve_] by jac0bsdad
May 27, 2008 (2:51 am)

Replying to: steve_ (May 26, 2008 7:48 pm)

I obviously meant that my frat brother "used to live", not love in Atlanta... He might have done that as well, but I don't know... lol... Yep, I know a lot about East Tennessee... I graduated from ETSU in Johnson City, TN... NE Tennessee is my favorite part of the state... Driving up there is less crowded than in Chatt town... I went to Bradley High School in Cleveland... I think we will break the $4.00/gall barrier for RUG by the end of June 08, if not sooner... I think by July 4th, the national average for RUG will be $4.00/gall... I hope I am wrong...
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What if Gas were $10.00 per gallon? by jac0bsdad
May 27, 2008 (3:17 am)
This was the title of a news article on MSN last week... I went back and read a few posts about the fact that diesel is now over $5.00/gall in California and NY... Diesel is over $4.50/gall in Chattanooga, TN. Anyway, my father is now semi retired and sold his small trucking company back in the mid-90's... having grown up with a middle class truck driving owner, I can tell you that there are some independent trucking contractor's that are losing their shirt and either thinking about doing something different or most likely trying to get a job as a company driver... the article stated that if gas got to $10.00/gall, that trucking companies would close up and goods would be transported by rail and river barges... Turnaround times to retail outlets would be much slower than we are used to now, via truck. Also, people would start growing small roof top gardens in the urban areas, as they become more populated due to the high cost of gas.. Also, we would naturally have a big time recession/depression. I have to get ready for work, so everyone make it a great day..
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Re: We are in trouble [trispec] by gagrice
May 27, 2008 (5:22 am)

Replying to: trispec (May 26, 2008 3:50 pm)

Will states start suspending gas taxes? Will the Feds start suspending gas taxes? Clearly the voters will be in a really bad mood so which political party is going to get whacked hardest?
 
I know in CA they will probably add tax to gas as part of their plan to cut CO2. We are at about 64 cents per gallon last I checked and 72 cents per gallon on diesel. Highest fuel taxes in the Nation. If people really take a hard look at their Senators and Congressmen they will not vote for any incumbent. Both parties are feeding at the lobbyist trough. Pelosi did promise to lower the price of gas if we voted the Democrats into office in 2006. Not sure what her plan was/is. It is not working.
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Re: We are in trouble [gagrice] by imidazol97
May 27, 2008 (5:28 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 22, 2008 8:48 am)

One of our legislators representing Ohio was talking about how the California group in congress is in control. Expect more legislation mimicing California's value and taxation systems to be attempted if there isn't a change in congress in November. Pelosi et al view the world through different colored glasses--not a good thing. Their solutions are taxation and higher prices.
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Re: We are in trouble [imidazol97] by trispec
May 27, 2008 (6:35 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (May 27, 2008 5:28 am)

Why has no one said anythings about the absoluting obscene record billion dollar profit wind falls that the oil industry giants are reaping?
 
I mean come on folks, how long is the oil industry's apologizing, "We are so very very sorry to be making these mountains of profits. We can't control the market forces that are just handing our companies billions of dollars in profit. It's against the law for the oil industry to not make as much money as possible during these extremely hard times, because that's how business works. We don't control the price of gas or oil, the market drives everything!"
 
If the public doesn't get a clue and force the oil companies by law to "Cut the S#$", we are going to start seeing a move to nationalize the oil companies. Wouldn't that be a cool trick. If Venezuela can do do it, so can we. Look at Venezuela's gas price!
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Re: We are in trouble [trispec] by texases
May 27, 2008 (6:39 am)

Replying to: trispec (May 27, 2008 6:35 am)

"Why has no one said anythings about the absoluting obscene record billion dollar profit wind falls that the oil industry giants are reaping?"
 
Because, by rational standards, they're not "obscene". Large? Of course. In 2007 Exxon had revenues of $400B, profits of $40B, 10%. That's the profit margin of a successful company. Look at Microsoft - 25% to 30%. Not a good example? Look at Proctor and Gamble, the soap maker, around 15%. So your arguement is false. If we eliminate the profit motive, we can count on oil and gas shortages, as investors take their money elsewhere.
 
p.s. My biggest disappointment with the recent showboating in Congress was that the oil execs didn't pull out a simple pie chart: If gas costs $4/gallon, and crude costs $3/gallon, how much is left for taxes, shipping, refining, and selling? Not much!
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hho (water to gas) engine conversion kits by ezelda
May 27, 2008 (7:08 am)
Hi, I would like to hear from anyone who has actually used or is using one of the water to gas conversion kits on their car. Wanting to know if it really works.......

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