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We are in trouble by avalon02wh
May 26, 2008 (7:21 am)
I am going to give up posting which states are over $4 a gallon of RUG - too many to count.
 
I did notice that the District of Columbia is over $4. This is where all the mental midgets go to pass laws. I think we are in big trouble. It doesn't matter which party passes the law, you can bet that it will be either too little too late or too much too early.
 
Maybe they won't notice.
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Re: Deep well [andre1969] by avalon02wh
May 26, 2008 (7:32 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (May 26, 2008 7:21 am)

" And then, with the more perishable stuff like milk and such, they'd just buy from a local Mom & pop store. Lotta people raised chickens too, so they'd have fresh eggs"
 
The sad part of the story in ND is that there are few Mom & Pop stores left. When gas was cheap in the 90s everyone drove into the big towns for everything. In just the last 10 years I've seen a number of stores close in the areas I visit. People are going to regret not supporting those stores when they had the chance. They are now gone and there is little chance any will come back given the declining populations. The one exception to this is that many gas stations are turning into convenience stores. So if a town was lucky enough to keep the gas station they have some options.
 
NG did an article a few months ago about ND.
 
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/01/emptied-north-dakota/bowden-text
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Re: We are in trouble [avalon02wh] by steve_ HOST
May 26, 2008 (12:31 pm)

Replying to: avalon02wh (May 26, 2008 7:21 am)

$3.89 is typical in Boise today - we went up the road to the next little town for breakfast this morning and RUG there is $3.99.9. $4 in other words.
 
They will give you a free trailer dump if you fill up (but there are free places in town, so unless you live there, I'm not sure why you'd bother, unless you really want to, er, lighten your load to help your mpg.)
 
We give all kinds of subsidies to the rural farmers, but none to the Mom & Pop stores, or the local hardware stores. We know one guy here who had to move to town 15 years ago. All his neighbors were getting paid not to grow stuff, and his parents were going broke trying to sell nuts and bolts and the odd lawnmower. They shut down and everyone in his family scattered to find paying work.
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Re: More roads more traffic? [kdhspyder] by simpilot1
May 26, 2008 (1:37 pm)

Replying to: kdhspyder (May 25, 2008 6:13 pm)

NYC is my former home as well. I have lived in almost a dozen other cities and NYC because of its subway system is the only one where for most trips you can walk to a station within a few hundred yards, the trip is frequently faster than driving, and you don't have to be outside in bad weather for an extended period of time.
http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm
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Poor Driving by simpilot1
May 26, 2008 (1:47 pm)
I drove 5 miles to a shopping center today. On 3 occasions I had to wait for several cycles of a traffic light because someone allowed 10 car lengths to open before crawling forward at less than 5 miles an hour. 3 cars went through when 10 could have gone. And THEN there were the people at a stop SIGN who wouldn't move if there was another car in sight. A big rig could have EASILY proceeded. I wish the police would start giving out tickets for obstructing traffic to these individuals In my opinion smarter driving would result in a significant increase in city MPG.
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I'm wasting fuel as I speak... by andre1969
May 26, 2008 (2:19 pm)
got my '79 New Yorker running, jumper cables attached to my '67 Catalina convertible, trying to charge up its dead battery. Guess it would be cheaper to just yank the battery and walk it up to the house to charge it, but I'm too lazy right now.
 
**edit: gave up after about 10 mins...battery's on the charger now.
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Re: More roads more traffic? [ny540i6] by kdhspyder
May 26, 2008 (2:45 pm)

Replying to: ny540i6 (May 26, 2008 5:22 am)

Went to Manhattan College in the Bronx from '67 - '71, the year after Rudy Giuliani graduated. Then lived in Seagate Brooklyn ( end of Coney Island ) for 2 yrs, then lived in Greenwich Village for 7 yrs, then lived in Jamaica Estates ( end of E&F trains ) for 5 yrs before moving to North Jersey when I got married. Worked in Manhattan from '72 to 97...
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Re: We are in trouble [steve_] by trispec
May 26, 2008 (3:50 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (May 26, 2008 12:31 pm)

Ok, let's get really serious. By the next election, gas prices are being forecast to be $5/gallon.
 
Will states start suspending gas taxes? Will the Feds start suspending gas taxes? Clearly the voters will be in a really bad mood so which political party is going to get whacked hardest?
 
If the gas taxes get axed, will the highway projects just end? Would road building end? Would normal road maintenance end?
 
How bad would the roads need to be before people stop driving?
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I don't know... by iluvmysephia1
May 26, 2008 (4:14 pm)
the roads are hideous in the little SE Arizona cowtown I live in, and all of us just keep driving along on them. We just steer around the worst potholes.
 
I can't imagine letting nasty roads stop me from driving.
 
Now, I agree, it is going to be interesting what candidate does what with this exorbitant fuel price issue. Reduced fuel taxes are hard to be an imaginable choice, though, with the money needed for Project A or Project B or Project C, as naseum. Big government is a big job and monies are always needed.

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