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Today - by ny540i6
May 26, 2008 (3:16 am)
To all of you who are veterans, or the families of veterans, Thanks.
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Re: More roads more traffic? [ny540i6] by kdhspyder
May 26, 2008 (4:54 am)

Replying to: ny540i6 (May 25, 2008 10:03 pm)

The stat said NYC as a locality so I took it to mean the 5 boroughs. As you say SI and Queens have a lot of cars but Manhattan relatively has none.
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Re: More roads more traffic? [kdhspyder] by ny540i6
May 26, 2008 (5:22 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (May 26, 2008 4:54 am)

Hey, just curious, how long did you live here, and where?
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Re: More roads more traffic? [ny540i6] by gagrice
May 26, 2008 (5:39 am)

Replying to: ny540i6 (May 25, 2008 10:07 pm)

Yeah, we have decent Mexican.
 
Can you and your wife get a full meal of chicken fajitas or carnitas for $7-$8 including tax and tip? We have 6 good Mexican places in our little town and only 4 gas stations. Cheapest gas is $4.15 at the Shell. A carne asada Burrito that is more than I can eat is $3.99. That includes chips, salsa and hot pickled carrots. We also have a Great Thai food restaurant that cooks everything fresh with NO MSG. Brooklyn Pizza is owned by a guy from NYC. He has real good thin crust Pizza. Still has NJ plates on his car, been here 3 years. He charges $18 for the Works, which seems high priced. But we like him so we splurge now and then.
 
Have a great safe Memorial Day
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Re: More roads more traffic? [gagrice] by ny540i6
May 26, 2008 (5:46 am)

Replying to: gagrice (May 26, 2008 5:39 am)

Hey, I never said we had CHEAP Mexican!
 
But seriously, if you know where to go, yes, you can find great, cheap eats.
 
And a safe holiday to you and yours.
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Re: More roads more traffic? [gagrice] by trispec
May 26, 2008 (6:04 am)

Replying to: gagrice (May 25, 2008 5:36 pm)

Sorry, but obviously some folks don't have a correct picture of the Boston urban scene. Everything in Boston got built over two hundred years ago. Cars didn't exist for the middle class so there has been little provision for managing cars. The urban scene, street planning (non-existant really), home lot sizes (w/o drive ways), housing types (no yard multi-family triple deckers) and local community politics of Boston's metro region, uniquely impact the standard American style car culture. Boston has a more, European style car culture, where parking spaces get included in people's wills, but not inlcuded local ordinances.
 
Local politics is neighborhood based, which generally means that only hyper local issues get managed. The mass transit system which is the oldest in the country, even older than NYC subway system, has long had enough clout to take care of itself, thankfully, but car traffic management has received only piecemeal support and then only with federal money. But, the "Big Digg", a $14 billion dollar project, is probably the last such road project of it's kind. Here come the bike trail projects!
 
The vast majority of housing in middle class areas have only street parking. Some homes on my street only added off street parking 50 years after the original home was built. Picture bull dozers carving away chunks of the homes foundation walls to make room for a single car width driveways two cars long running into the back yard.
 
Nothing gets torn down. A 150 old twenty room mansion on my street got bought for demolition. The neighbors literally marched to the local police station and in mob fashion said "No way". The mayor of Boston literally had to step in and provide money to the developer to move a three story, 20 room mansion in tact. And even after that projected finish, the developer left cars parking on the street.
 
That's the picture of modern Boston folks should have. Cars ain't gonna ever go away and the ain't gonna ever get managed. Chaos reigns!
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Re: Deep well [gagrice] by avalon02wh
May 26, 2008 (7:10 am)

Replying to: gagrice (May 25, 2008 3:13 pm)

"How many gallons to the closest Walmart SuperCenter? "
 
60.3 miles according to Yahoo. If the pickumup gets 20 mpg we are talking 6 gallons or about $24 round trip. Folks in the rural areas are definitely cutting back on their trips to town.
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Re: More roads more traffic? [ny540i6] by gagrice
May 26, 2008 (7:11 am)

Replying to: ny540i6 (May 26, 2008 5:46 am)

Hey, I never said we had CHEAP Mexican!
 
It use to drive me crazy when I would go out to eat with friends in Anchorage. They always wanted to take me to one of the Mexican restaurants that had the "best" Mexican food. I would choke on the prices they charged. I usually ended up paying the bill. There is just no way in the world a Mexican meal is worth $12-$15. Same reason we rarely go out for Italian. Just no way that pasta can be worth the prices charged. I guess we are spoiled and cheap. Spent too many years in poverty to squander money.
 
It does bother me to see Gen Y nieces and nephews racing around in blinged out Denalis & 4X4 PU trucks, while their parents slave to keep up with all the bills. The younger generation is in for a big shock when mom and dad cannot subsidize their high flying lifestyles. Many seem to have no economic sense.
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Re: Deep well [avalon02wh] by gagrice
May 26, 2008 (7:17 am)

Replying to: avalon02wh (May 26, 2008 7:10 am)

When you add $24 to the bill, it makes the mom and pop store in the small towns seem like a good deal. That is what we are experiencing. The local markets are not chock full of every brand available. They seem expensive until you add on the price of gas going down the hill 10 miles to Walmart or 15 miles to Costco. The gas stations add just enough to make it a wash going the longer distance to gas up.
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Re: Deep well [avalon02wh] by andre1969
May 26, 2008 (7:21 am)

Replying to: avalon02wh (May 26, 2008 7:10 am)

Folks in the rural areas are definitely cutting back on their trips to town.
 
I think that's already been a way of life for rural residents for a long time. We have some friends down in Holly Brook, Va, which is up in the mountains. My uncle lived down there for a few years, when he had this fascination for mountain living...guess he took "Grizzly Adams" to heart! Anyway, the nearest semi-big town was Bluefield, West VA.
 
I just mapquested it, and it's "only" a 21.3 mile trip. Mapquest thinks you could make it in 33 minutes. But I doubt if you're going to, with some of those mountain roads.
 
I remember people down there would tend to go into Bluefield as rarely as possible. They'd buy as many groceries as would fit in their car, hopefully lasting them a couple weeks. And then, with the more perishable stuff like milk and such, they'd just buy from a local Mom & pop store. Lotta people raised chickens too, so they'd have fresh eggs. A lot of the people down there didn't have much money, so they learned to conserve and be resourceful long before fuel prices started to shoot up.

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