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Re: On Topic [snakeweasel] by lmpracetech
May 02, 2008 (7:44 am)

Replying to: snakeweasel (May 01, 2008 4:55 pm)

"they borrowed $500 and was supposed to pay back over $1,400 in just 6 months."
 
WOW... Talk about taking advantage of someones disadvantage... Where do I sign up? I will let people barrow at that kind of interest rate all day long, that would be a good business. Its ridiculous, but so are people and it looks proven to work so that might be something to look into for a future investment.
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Re: On Topic [lmpracetech] by andre1969
May 02, 2008 (7:49 am)

Replying to: lmpracetech (May 02, 2008 7:44 am)

And the thing that irritates me is that they let this kind of stuff go on, yet as a private individual if you lend someone money, I think legally you can only charge 8% interest or something like that.
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Re: Unusual Fueled Cars [gagrice] by tpe
May 02, 2008 (7:53 am)

Replying to: gagrice (May 02, 2008 7:07 am)

Solar has not gotten cheaper with higher production
 
If you went to the link I provided you'd have read how solar panels have actually gotten more expensive over the past few years due to rapidly increasing demand and a shortage of silicon. The article went on to say that manufacturing capacity has finally caught up and we should start seeing some significant price drops in the coming years.
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Re: Unusual Fueled Cars [tpe] by gagrice
May 02, 2008 (7:59 am)

Replying to: tpe (May 02, 2008 7:53 am)

Yes I did read that. It is saying maybe the price will drop. Will it ever be really practical for the individual? That is the debate. Maybe for 25% of the USA. The Northwest that is socked in most of the time you will get little or no benefit from solar. Even in CA I think it is about 5 hours of good sunlight per day.
 
When clouds cover the sun, light levels are reduced. This does not shut down power production, however. If there is enough light to cast a shadow, in spite of the clouds, your solar panels should operate at about half of their full capacity. Thicker cloud cover will reduce operations further. Eventually, with heavy cloud cover, solar panels will produce very little useful power.
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Re: Oil [1stpik] by nwng
May 02, 2008 (8:14 am)

Replying to: 1stpik (May 01, 2008 12:26 pm)

here's an example of what happened with the recent fast and furious oil price spike:
 
when gas is at say, $100 per barrel, speculator A bought a contract of 10 mil barrels. Knowing that the US$ is tanking due to the agressive interest rate cuts and the economy in a sputter, oil is going nowhere but up. Subsequently oil does go up to $105 per barrel in a short time, so speculator A unloads the contract for say at $104.75 and you do the math how much short term profit speculator A made. Since the US$ keeps tanking, many many speculators join in the game and drive up the prices of oil higher than what they're suppose to be.
 
Now, let's guess who are the speculators. I will start with George S.
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$3.76 is local peak for regular by dave8697
May 02, 2008 (8:20 am)
streets near empty. Restaurants near empty. The 20 items or less checkout at Walmart is empty and waiting for me. Catching more green lights. At red lights, nobody is driving on the crossing street. I'm waiting for nothing at those lights. Kids looking for summer jobs at empty stores and restaurants not having luck.
I have a V8 with low miles on it but some other cars with little 3.8L engines that I use for longer trips. At the current rate of acquiring mileage, I'll be just breaking in the V8 when hydrogen fuel powers 50% of all cars.
I am lucky to be getting 24 mpg from a smaller $2500 V6 pickup truck I got with 88,000 miles on it. Thats with outside parking in 5 degree weather. A round trip to work was still under $5 with the peak in gas prices. The $15k I saved by not getting a new 29 mpg Fusion will never be even dented by the dollar a day difference in gas costs. I just won't have the smoother quieter ride of a new car, but it is the pay later option than still works. The car for sale on the bulletin board, a '02 Civic with 93k miles for $9900? The full coverage insurance it needs will eat the gas savings. I didn't get full coverage on the truck with 88k miles on it and it cost $4-5k more than the Civic did new.
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Re: On Topic [andre1969] by steve_ HOST
May 02, 2008 (8:37 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (May 02, 2008 7:49 am)

Seems like usury laws are non-existent.
 
I thought I had diverted y'all from all the HELOC talk but I guess not (I would have grumbled sooner buy my ISP going dark for 14 hours didn't help any ). Let's try to relate the posts to gas prices as much as possible please.
 
Don't get me stated on nuke cars - they are already sending radioactive sand from Kuwait to SW Idaho to store here - I can just imagine what a 10 square mile radioactive car salvage yard in the desert would look like.
 
Hypermiling has hit Fox News and NPR is offering gas tips. More Gas 'n' dash stories out there too. Nothing earth shattering you didn't already know.
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Re: On Topic [steve_] by kernick
May 02, 2008 (9:08 am)

Replying to: steve_ (May 02, 2008 8:37 am)

Wow there are still stations that don't make people prepay before turning the pump on?! Are these part of the Ned Flander's Kwiki Mart (Simpson's) gas chain?
 
Maybe some salesmen for those spike-barriers the rental car parking lots use, could make some $.
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Re: $3.76 is local peak for regular [dave8697] by lemko
May 02, 2008 (9:11 am)

Replying to: dave8697 (May 02, 2008 8:20 am)

Holy smoke! That sounds just like me! I bought a new Cadillac DTS Performance in November but I've been driving my 1988 Buick Park Avenue with a 3.8 V-6 most of the time. I guess I'll have a super low-mile 2007 Cadillac at Carlisle sometime in the future.
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What won't you buy at $4.00 per Gallon? by circlew
May 02, 2008 (9:38 am)
I guess we need to buy something that is super-economical, Dear. What is everyone else buying?
 
Americans rushed to swap their thirsty trucks and SUVs for fuel-efficient cars in April, making the month a turning point for the industry’s biggest segment shift in memory.
 
The stampede to cars left in the dust a Detroit Three that simply weren’t ready for its magnitude because of their reliance on truck-based vehicles, while it lifted Japanese automakers whose traditional strength has remained in small cars.
 
As U.S. consumers definitively reacted to $3.50-a-gallon gasoline, passenger cars outsold truck-based vehicles for the first time in at least 20 years. The move comprised a shift of six percentage points for the industry compared with last April, to 54 percent car sales.

 
Did the Big 3 wake up late to the party or what?
 
Regards,
OW

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