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Replying to: kdhspyder (Apr 28, 2008 4:04 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 28, 2008 5:16 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 27, 2008 9:07 pm) The US manufacturers will produce electric cars. Chrysler has concept electric cars in development right now similar to the Tesla car, see the Dodge Zeo sports car. Electric cars as well as any alternative fuel car will play a vital role in our future when gas prices become astronomically high or we run out of oil completely. Imagine if every household was somewhat self-sufficient and had solar panels to power heating and cooling systems,electric appliances and recharge your electric car battery. It is being done today and is a reality. The technology will be further developed and the distance factor (to go to Vegas:) will be overcome, perhaps with solar panels on the roof and hood of the electric cars, or some other energy source such as an added hydrogen cell as seen in the Chrysler EcoVoyager concept car. Dupont just developed a kind of paint that is electrolytic and that it absorbs light and transfers the energy to metal rods in the form of electricity, which they are using right now to put on rooftops instead of installing solar panels. One day we may have no choice, our children will definately inherit the problems we have today and they will have to deal with it better than we ever did. No doubt we will figure a way to make the battery technology more environmentally friendly and built in the US to our standards ! I wonder if research into cold fusion will start up again. The time is right for new energy sources. I am still waiting for that Solar Satellite technology to become a reality and theoretically provide enough energy to meet the worlds needs (see European Space agency, and Space Island Group, Money magazine March 2006) and there is no danger from the narrow focused beam of microwaves that will be collected by microwave recievers on earth ! You will not get fried, although I can think of a few people who deserve to for not being open minded 
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2008 7:07 pm) GM's stated plan for the 2-Modes are Tahoe / Yukon Escalade Silverado / Sierra Vue Aura / Malibu It's best use though would be in the Lambda crossovers, the Enclave, Acadia, Outlook where it would jump the fuel economy from the low 20's to the high 20's or even 30 mpg. It's just like the HSD in the Highlander. It's just as capable and probably costs the same. For GM to reach 200,000 units of 2-Modes it should be a snap. As soon as that happens the system becomes $2500 cheaper ( Toyota method ) or that $2500 becomes pretax profit ( GM needs this ).
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 28, 2008 4:30 am) Those are excellent opportunities for random sprint intervals - makes a great workout. You can get the same effect by riding on country roads with lots of farm dogs.  Not to mention the fact that the increased speed will cut down on your ride commute, although the added weight of the Beretta might slow you down. 
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Replying to: flash11 (Apr 28, 2008 7:27 pm) The car is FLAWED and poorly engineered. Now they have disgruntled customers that were promised cars last year. They are being sued for millions owed suppliers. It may have been a good idea. Just not good timing. Tables turned: Tesla Motors sued by transmission supplier Magna Posted Apr 16th 2008 1:58PM by Dan Roth Magna doesn't seem upset that it was just a stepping stone – that's business. What the company would like, however, is to get paid for the work it performed. Magna is also telling Tesla "told you so" by claiming to have suggested a single-speed unit back in 2006. To recover its $5.6 million, Magna has filed suit in San Mateo to force the issue, which coincidentally comes not long after Tesla filed suit against Fisker, which it initially hired to designs its next product, the WhiteStar sedan. What goes around comes around, we guess. The legal wranglings haven't yet made a dent in Tesla's operations, but Magna's lawsuit could bolster the case of frustrated buyers who have yet to receive their cars, should those customers decide to also take to the courts. |
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Chakib Khélil, Algerian Ministry of Energy and current chair of the OPEC mentions a $200 Barrel a possibility if the USD continues to slip. http://www.lefigaro.fr/matieres-premieres/2008/04/28/04012-20080428ARTFIG00395-p- etrole-proche-des-dollars-.php (in French) OTOH, he estimates the prices may drop down to $80 (from the current $120 a barrel) if the USD value increases by 10%. A few months ago, I made a guess that the barrel would reach $200. This proved too conservative, and I therefore increase it to 250$ within 30 months. I estimate that within the same time frame, the US Gallon price will increase by 2,5 to 3 USD, so I would not be surprised to see 6,5 USD as a standard street price. In Europe, prices should easily shoot past the 10USD/Gal barrier at current USD/EUR rates. The peak oil price is still in front of us. Let us enjoy our Caddy Escalade as much as we can now. |
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Replying to: greasecar (Apr 28, 2008 7:03 pm) how does paying $4 per gallon make you selfish if other countries decide to over tax their fuel to $5. Nobody is stopping you from taking that extra $1 and sending it to the government. If you do this you'll personally have the effect of higher gas tax and reduce your consumption; thereby alleviating your selfishness. This will in turn leave more fuel on the market for us V8 drivers Thanks for taking one for the team 
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 28, 2008 7:35 am) I ran the numbers too, and this is what I get. EPA lists the 92 Honda CRX manual at 36/46 or 39/49 under the new system. The 08 Honda fit manual was 28/34 under the new system. The curb weight for the HF was 1713 according to this site. http://kumo.swcp.com/synth/crx/specs.html Wiki says the weight of the new Fit is 2390. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Fit 2390 - 1713 = 677 pounds (this is a huge difference for such a small car) 677/1713 x 100 = 39.5% increase in weight (Fit over CRX) 28 x 1.395 = 39.06 (Fit estimated mpg if you reduce the weight to 1713 ) 34 x 1.395 = 47.43 The new Fit does not appear to be that much different. (F=MA & 0.5xMxVsquared) The Fit has tighter emission controls. I wonder what the mpg penalty is? I also wonder if the cd (air resistance) is different. The CRX tires were only 165/70 13s, that has got to be worth 20 mpg right there
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Apr 29, 2008 3:00 am)
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