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Re: Is $10 gas in our future?? [lemmer] by lemko
Apr 28, 2008 (12:17 pm)

Replying to: lemmer (Apr 28, 2008 11:26 am)

I wouldn't think the bicyclist is a freak. I'd say he was a health-concious genius while the guy driving across the compound to pick up his mail was a fat lazy fool.
 
Of course, this recent trip to Spring Carlisle demonstrated a few things. People were driving a lot slower on the PA Turnpike, and this was before the rain. There were fewer folks attending the show than in years past. The diner we ate at later was quite empty. Heck, by the time I got home to Philly, I felt like a fool for going, but I did have a good time. I could've instead stayed home and went to work and made some money.
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [texases] by lmpracetech
Apr 28, 2008 (12:22 pm)

Replying to: texases (Apr 28, 2008 11:26 am)

What about 3rd row seating? The comfort of a full size car... I wonder what the cost difference is to the manufacturer to produce a hybrid or EV?
I mean, its a $20k option. This is the kind of pricing you see from Ferrari, or Bentley.
 
Someone that has a bunch of kids or is involved in a bunch of activities would definitely benefit from having a hybrid, but then they are docked for buying one?
 
Is the cost really more to produce these cars?
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Re: E.M. F. of Hybrids [pat85] by kdhspyder
Apr 28, 2008 (12:23 pm)

Replying to: pat85 (Apr 28, 2008 8:50 am)

I have a theory :.
The intelligence of the universe is a constant. The population is increasing.

 
Very subtle. I like your humor.
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Re: $4.33... [lmpracetech] by kernick
Apr 28, 2008 (12:24 pm)

Replying to: lmpracetech (Apr 28, 2008 8:46 am)

This is hurting the economy badly in the sense that they are not spending any of the money they would have at restraints and RV parks throughout the county.
 
Yes the restraints are only needed if you're in an RV a long time with the family members.
 
But seriously, if the country wants to conserve gas then you really shouldn't have people driving these sorts of vehicles around for recreational purposes. But I don't endorse any law that would force such a thing, or ban power-boating. People have the freedom to buy what they want and use fuel how they want as long as they can afford it. The market will work all on its, with increasing prices encouraging some to give up some of these uses.
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Re: Is $10 gas in our future?? [lemko] by gagrice
Apr 28, 2008 (12:27 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Apr 28, 2008 12:12 pm)

People can't afford to pay half a million dollars for some falling down shack
 
I have looked at $500k and up fixers both in CA and Hawaii. When you take into consideration that when we had the bad rains a few years ago and several homes in Laguna Beach slid down the hill. It is put into perspective what the land is worth when those lots sold for as much as $27 million. So the best thing to do is buy up those homes in the hood when the prices are low. Fix them up and make a killing on the next housing boom...
 
Many folks were booted out of their rentals in the slums of San Diego, when they were sold for huge prices.
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [lmpracetech] by gagrice
Apr 28, 2008 (12:33 pm)

Replying to: lmpracetech (Apr 28, 2008 12:11 pm)

I looked into converting my 99 Ranger into electric. It was about $16k for the conversion including lead acid batteries. That would include me doing the work. I have decided to keep the Ranger that only gets about 3k miles per year on it. Or buy a full sized older diesel truck with a little more power. Either option is a whole lot cheaper than EV conversion. Including the price of fuel for the rest of my life.
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [lmpracetech] by texases
Apr 28, 2008 (12:37 pm)

Replying to: lmpracetech (Apr 28, 2008 12:22 pm)

Rumor has it the manufacturing cost difference for hybrids can exceed the asking price - this is serious stuff, a whole added drive train (motor/generators, battery packs, etc.) and the size/cost goes up with vehicle size, so the ~$5000 premium for the Tahoe (at equal levels of options) is well within reason. That said, the only hybrids that make economic sense are the Prius, Civic, Camry, and Escape, as far as I can tell. I challenge your statement on 'the comfort of a full sized car' - test drive a Highlander, it's as nice as any Tahoe. Not much more room in a Tahoe, either, certainly no more room than a Pilot.
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Re: $4.33... [kernick] by lmpracetech
Apr 28, 2008 (1:09 pm)

Replying to: kernick (Apr 28, 2008 12:24 pm)

I meant to say the food service industry sorry.
They will suffer because of the lack of traveling done by RVers.
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [steve_] by lmpracetech
Apr 28, 2008 (1:13 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Apr 28, 2008 12:14 pm)

That is rad... Im going to seriously check it out, maybe get my hands on a 1980's BMW 3 series and make it my EV.
That is cool, I get pumped up about this kind of stuff.
They are in California too, I dont know where Felton is but im going to check into this for sure.
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [gagrice] by lmpracetech
Apr 28, 2008 (1:15 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2008 12:33 pm)

HAHA thats funny.
So not worth it huh?

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