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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [pat85] by lmpracetech
Apr 28, 2008 (10:44 am)

Replying to: pat85 (Apr 28, 2008 9:37 am)

I know its slightly sarcastic.
This is the thing, a new Yukon is about $30k... Most people can afford that. The hybrid is $50k.
 
Thats a pretty big jump from being on the affordable level and being way out of budget for alot of people. Its the principal cost of the car. So, can you spend $50k now... or have to deal with the price of fuel because $20k more financing is ridiculous to you.
 
From my standpoint in the industry I am in, most people are just buying cars right now and saving money on the purchase price... Not to try and save the environment, not to save money in the future. The economy is hurting right now, and they need to save money right now even if that means buy a car thats less efficient for the future.
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Is $10 gas in our future?? by gagrice
Apr 28, 2008 (11:14 am)
Get ready for another economic shock of major proportions — a virtual doubling of prices at the gas pump to as much as $10 a gallon.
 
That's the message from a couple of analytical energy industry trackers, both of whom, based on the surging oil prices, see considerably more pain at the pump than most drivers realize.
 
Gasoline nationally is in an accelerated upswing, having jumped to $3.58 a gallon from $3.50 in just the past week. In some parts of the country, including New York City and the West Coast, gas is already sporting a price tag above $4 a gallon. There was a pray-in at a Chevron station in San Francisco on Friday led by a minister asking God for cheaper gas, and an Arco gas station in San Mateo, Calif., has already raised its price to a sky-high $4.62.
 
His latest prediction of $200 oil is open to question, since it would undoubtedly create considerable global economic distress. Further, just about every energy expert I talk to cautions me to expect a sizable pullback in oil prices, maybe to between $50 and $70 a barrel, especially if there's a global economic slowdown.

 
http://www2.nysun.com/article/75363
 
How much can someone making shoes for 50 cents an hour afford to pay for gas? We are already seeing our system crumbling under the weight of high priced oil. The thing to remember "what goes up, must come down".
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [lmpracetech] by euphonium
Apr 28, 2008 (11:19 am)

Replying to: lmpracetech (Apr 28, 2008 10:44 am)

Agree. Buy what you can afford now and perhaps the car companies, in wanting to revitalize their businesses, they would start supplemental companies that produced retrofit technologires for cars already produced.
 
Producing retrofit kits would not be too difficult. This would create jobs, revitalize our economy and make a now derelict and undervalued part of our nation, due to outsourcing, a once again thriving community with a sense of pride.
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Re: Is $10 gas in our future?? [gagrice] by bpizzuti
Apr 28, 2008 (11:19 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2008 11:14 am)

"what goes up, must come down".
 
Not if a bunch of suckers prove that they'll sell their children in order to pay the bill as it stands.
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Re: Is $10 gas in our future?? [gagrice] by lemmer
Apr 28, 2008 (11:26 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2008 11:14 am)

We haven't even come close to cutting out recreational use of gas. It is hard to figure gas is overpriced when I see people driving across an apartment complex to get their mail. Another example is that where I work, we have an employee cafeteria but yet we still have a mass exodus at 11:30 to drive somewhere for lunch. Not to mention that it seems like easily half these people are driving medium or large SUVs. There is a guy at work who bicycles five miles to the office once or twice a week. People think he is a freak.
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [lmpracetech] by texases
Apr 28, 2008 (11:26 am)

Replying to: lmpracetech (Apr 28, 2008 10:44 am)

"This is the thing, a new Yukon is about $30k... Most people can afford that. The hybrid is $50k. "
 
If you need the towing capacity, fine, but how about a Highlander/Edge type vehicle for $30k? Gets the mileage of the Yukon hybrid...
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [euphonium] by lmpracetech
Apr 28, 2008 (12:11 pm)

Replying to: euphonium (Apr 28, 2008 11:19 am)

Now thats a damn good idea...
Whats funny is that we turned a VW rabbit into an electric vehicle when I was in HS. And also built an EV, that lasted about an hour going avg. 35mph... This was in 2000.
(No ones making retrofit kits that I know of)
 
I dont think the oil company's or the car makers give a crap about the people...
I did this 8 years ago as a HS student and they, or anyone for that matter cant figure out what to do to make things better, give me a break... All they care about is $$$.
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Re: Is $10 gas in our future?? [gagrice] by lemko
Apr 28, 2008 (12:12 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2008 11:14 am)

Goes for housing too. People can't afford to pay half a million dollars for some falling down shack in the 'hood, so it will go for fuel prices. The truckers are already storming Washington DC as we speak.
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Re: Cost of Hybrid and gas [lmpracetech] by steve_ HOST
Apr 28, 2008 (12:14 pm)

Replying to: lmpracetech (Apr 28, 2008 12:11 pm)

No ones making retrofit kits that I know of
 
Here you go: Electric Vehicle Conversions
 
Let us know how it turns out!
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Re: Is $10 gas in our future?? [lemmer] by lemko
Apr 28, 2008 (12:17 pm)

Replying to: lemmer (Apr 28, 2008 11:26 am)

I wouldn't think the bicyclist is a freak. I'd say he was a health-concious genius while the guy driving across the compound to pick up his mail was a fat lazy fool.
 
Of course, this recent trip to Spring Carlisle demonstrated a few things. People were driving a lot slower on the PA Turnpike, and this was before the rain. There were fewer folks attending the show than in years past. The diner we ate at later was quite empty. Heck, by the time I got home to Philly, I felt like a fool for going, but I did have a good time. I could've instead stayed home and went to work and made some money.

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