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Re: Save fuel or save your little grey cells??? [gagrice] by larsb
Apr 28, 2008 (7:50 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 27, 2008 10:04 pm)

Gary, that's a bunch of rot.
 
Here is the sentence in that story which matters the most:
 
The tests conducted by hybrid owners rarely approach the level of thoroughness of those run by automakers.
 
Toyota test the Prius at 1/300th of the Euro "safe" ratings. (that's pretty low)
 
I'm letting my kids ride in the backseat right by the batteries. There is NO danger. Take it from the millions of owners who are not showing ill effects rather than the one who said it made her "sleepy."
 
Puh-Frickin-Leeeze.
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Money for phones by kernick
Apr 28, 2008 (8:25 am)
It seems that the people of Australia are not putting too much of their budgets into gasoline. With all the money they're spending on phones ...
 
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2008-04-28-australia-cell-peopl- e_N.htm
 
What's the average cell phone bill? $30/month? or $360/year which could go towards gasoline.
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Re: Save fuel or save your little grey cells??? [larsb] by gagrice
Apr 28, 2008 (8:36 am)

Replying to: larsb (Apr 28, 2008 7:50 am)

You need to take your rant up with the NY Times, not me. This is not the first case of illness blamed on EMF. There are 3 quoted in this article and others have brought it up on Edmund's only to be pushed aside as wacko hybrid haters. Your protest of the NY Times article is noted:
 
Take it from the millions of owners who are not showing ill effects rather than the one who said it made her "sleepy."
  
Just how many millions of hybrid owners would that be?
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Re: Money for phones [kernick] by gagrice
Apr 28, 2008 (8:40 am)

Replying to: kernick (Apr 28, 2008 8:25 am)

I would say our average is way over $30 per month. I just bought my wife a phone and signed up at Costco. The Cheapest at&t rate was $29.95 per month. Just for basic phone with 200 minutes per month. That being about 180 more than she uses. Yes we waste a lot of money on worthless gadgets every month. Wonder if a lot of phones get disconnected when people decide between having a phone or driving their car?
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$4.33... by lmpracetech
Apr 28, 2008 (8:46 am)
Why is Diesel fuel at $4.33 right now?
This is crazy, its making our food we eat much more expensive and the travel we do by RV much more expensive.
My grandparents are cutting down, well all the people they travel with are cutting down all the smaller trips they take in their Diesel RV because they have to save more to go on longer trips... This is hurting the economy badly in the sense that they are not spending any of the money they would have at restraints and RV parks throughout the county. I am guessing that this is happening more and more for people that usually take vacations frequently.
I am tired of this oil war...
Want a hybrid? Pay more for the car and gas... (where are the savings, really?)
Have a diesel? Pay more... don't go on vacation.
Electric? Cant take that to Vegas... Anything out there appealing to me? No.
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E.M. F. of Hybrids by pat85
Apr 28, 2008 (8:50 am)
I bought a Toyota Camry Hybrid.
The huge magnetic fields generated by the batteries and electric motor in the Hybrid have made my daughter's hamster change from sleeping in the North-East corner of the cage to now sleeping in the South -West corner.
 
BTW the electric motor is under the hood in front of the engine. According to Farraday's law, no electric field can penetrate steel.
The reason automobiles are one of the safest place in a lightning storm is because of Farraday's law.
  The cables from the electric motor to the batteries have one positive and one negative connection or current would not flow. This means that any magnetic fields generated would self cancel;.
 
The strength of the field at the Earth's surface ranges from less than 30 microteslas (0.3 gauss) in an area including most of South America and South Africa to over 60 microteslas (0.6 gauss) around the magnetic poles in northern Canada and south of Australia, and in part of Siberia. .3 gauss is 300 milli- Gauss. .6 Gauss is 600 milli- Gauss. Just what was the level of milli- Gauss that made that dude sell his hybrid. 100 to 120 milli- Gauss. He was no doubt measuring the earth's field
 
I have a theory :.
The intelligence of the universe is a constant. The population is increasing.
 
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Re: Save fuel or save your little grey cells??? [gagrice] by larsb
Apr 28, 2008 (8:51 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2008 8:36 am)

Gary says, "You need to take your rant up with the NY Times, not me."
 
Actually, the NY Times did not post that ridiculous article on this forum. You Did.
 
Gary says, "Just how many millions of hybrid owners would that be?"
 
Um, more than 1 and less than 2. An answer which you know full well.
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Re: Money for phones [gagrice] by imidazol97
Apr 28, 2008 (9:01 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 28, 2008 8:40 am)

I'd suggest a Tracfone. You can get a phone plus a year's use and 400-600 minutes for about $110 including tax and shipping. Or you can go for 800 minutes plus maybe 200 bonus and double minutes if you purchase extra through the year for $150.
 
My kid's only failed when they were in the Gulf between Keys--actually out on a sailboat traveling from Seabase for a scout trip to Key West. Guess there wasn't a tower nearby in the water between Keys.
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My phone bill... by lemko
Apr 28, 2008 (9:30 am)
...is easily the cheapest bill I pay: an average of $17 a month. I don't even have a cell phone. If I want to communicate with my family, I can do it by instant messaging on the internet.
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Cost of Hybrid and gas by pat85
Apr 28, 2008 (9:37 am)
Want a hybrid? Pay more for the car and gas... (where are the savings, really?)
It depends on what you are now driving, what it's worth on a trade in, and what gas prices have to get to to make the gas savings of a hybrid worth while.
 I will save about $160 a month at $4.00 a gallon.
It will be $203 a month at $5,00 a gallon ( next Year ? )
How much will a new car creally cost ?

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