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Re: New abode [snakeweasel] by fezo
Apr 22, 2008 (2:49 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 22, 2008 2:05 pm)

Hey, snake! Come on down. I'd say plenty of room at the Jersey shore but that would not be accurate.
 
OTOH we do have cheap (relatively speaking) gas.
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Re: Record Oil Price [ny540i6] by snakeweasel
Apr 22, 2008 (3:34 pm)

Replying to: ny540i6 (Apr 22, 2008 2:26 pm)

I said I know of no company, there is undoubtably those that do but they are few and far between,
 
I don't think any state law requires OT past 8 hours a day.
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Re: New abode [fezo] by snakeweasel
Apr 22, 2008 (3:38 pm)

Replying to: fezo (Apr 22, 2008 2:49 pm)

My first impression of Cape May was someone yelling at us that we weren't getting off the bus fast enough.
 
My guess is that your experience on the southern tip of NJ was greatly different.
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Re: Record Oil Price [texases] by flash11
Apr 22, 2008 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: texases (Apr 22, 2008 9:11 am)

I applaud Chavez in Venezuela. The only reason he is being demonized is because he stuck it to the international oil companies and did not allow them to control to own or control the country. Now Venezuela will prosper with $1/gallon for the people and supply it to the world for a profit so Venezuela will prosper. Ask yourself why combustion engines have virtually not changed in 100 years ?? Consider any mechanical or technological invention in the last 200 years that has not been innovated or improved computers,phones, systems of any kind have all improved except the combustion engine. Shouldn't the present day combustion engine be obsolete and replaced by now with another type of engine to drive our transportation industry ? Atleast we should have a cheap energy source that does not pollute the environment by now. The electric car outlets in California disappeared why ?-seen that movie I think it is called who killed the electric car ?
We need a drastic change, lets adopt how other countries like Japan manage their oil. Lets get the automakers to make those little cars to compete with Japan and get 35+ miles per gallon and get the US working again.
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Re: Record Oil Price [snakeweasel] by tedebear
Apr 22, 2008 (4:47 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 22, 2008 2:11 pm)

I know of no company that pays overtime for going over 8 hours in a single day.
 
Well, since this is a car forum...
 
UAW employees get paid overtime for anything over 8 hours in a single day, regardless of how many hours they've worked that week. Also, Saturday and Sunday is all overtime pay, even if the person hasn't worked 40 hours up to that point.
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Re: Record Oil Price [bpizzuti] by tpe
Apr 22, 2008 (5:05 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Apr 22, 2008 9:16 am)

Having said that, China's gas is under $3 and not going anywhere.
 
Do you have a source to back that up?.
 
China does fix it's gas prices but they have gone up over the past year and I'm pretty sure it's above $3/gallon. If cheap gas really is the secret behind a booming economy you'd think that Venezuela and Iran's economy would just be exploding. If you look at the countries in the world with the highest standards of living they also tend to have fairly high gas prices. Which isn't to say that high gas prices will result in a higher standard of living it is only meant to dispute the argument that high gas prices are inconsistent with a high standard of living.
 
The problem with the US is that we've assumed there'd always be a cheap, abundant supply of gasoline and have made long term decisions accordingly. It turns out there's a price to be paid for a lack of foresight. To complain about the impact of high gas prices is comparable to complaining about the negative consequences of making bad decisions. Basically it's just whining. There's a lot of people now losing their homes because they made bad decisions based upon unrealistic assumptions. It's not the government's job to protect people from poor judgement.
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more aggressive fleet average proposed on Earth Day by steve_ HOST
Apr 22, 2008 (5:43 pm)
"New cars and trucks will have to meet a fleet-wide average of 31.6 mpg by 2015, or about a 4.5 percent annual increase from 2011 to 2015. In 2015, passenger cars will need to achieve 35.7 mpg, and trucks will need to reach 28.6 mpg."
 
Bush administration offers new fuel economy rules (CNN)
 
California wouldn't be able to set its own tailpipe standards, so Jerry Brown will sue if it passes.
 
btw, my wife worked 4 tens for a while and hated it....
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TRULY UTTERLY DISGUSTING! by lemko
Apr 22, 2008 (5:50 pm)
My girlfriend has been out in Los Angeles since Friday. Thursday night Sunoco Regular was $3.27. Friday morning it is $3.33. Saturday it is $3.39. Sunday though lunchtime today it is $3.41. I bring her back from the airport and see it at $3.49!!!
 
It jumped SIXTEEN CENTS a gallon since Friday? I don't know about you, but something is not kosher! Gasoline prices haven't jumped this fast when Hurricane Katrina hit.
 
Just to be a nice romantic guy, I picked girlfriend up in the new Cadillac. Sunoco Ultra is now a truly, utterly, disgusting $3.75!!! It jumped TEN CENTS since lunchtime! I'm probably the only guy who still uses it these days.
 
As Marvin Gaye once asked, "What's Goin' On?"
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Re: Record Oil Price [flash11] by texases
Apr 22, 2008 (7:45 pm)

Replying to: flash11 (Apr 22, 2008 4:22 pm)

Sorry, my friends from Caracas would differ with you. Chavez is a dictator, pure and simple. He's running out of money to buy the allegiance of the poor, and is looking for new scapegoats in the food supply industry.
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Re: Record Oil Price [tpe] by bpizzuti
Apr 23, 2008 (2:25 am)

Replying to: tpe (Apr 22, 2008 5:05 pm)

There are also people losing their homes because they were manipulated, misled, and misinformed by unscrupulous companies selling mortgages. It IS the governments job to protect people from predatory companies. Likewise if oil companies are being predatory it would be the government's job to step in. Saying they have no choice but to raise prices otherwise they'll be in the poorhouse, begging for tax breaks to help their poor, barely profitable industry, and then posting record hundred-billion profits, all at the same time doesn't quite wash with me.
 
I have no problem with companies wanting to be profitable, or even being profitable. But saying in one breath that they're at the edge of solvency and begging the government for a handout, and in the next breath announcing record profits sounds more like a scam, doesn't it?
 
As for the China thing, the price was in an article I just read this week and was dated recently. When I get to work I'll go dig it up.

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