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Replying to: tedebear (Apr 21, 2008 3:55 pm) Most takeout food in Manhattan is delivered either on foot, or by bike... different in the outer boroughs though. On of my "never forget" moments of living in Manhattan follows: In my 5th floor apartment one early summer evening - windows open, so I can hear some street noise. I hear a bang, and some cursing, so I go to the window, looking for street theater. Seems like a cabbie and a bike delivery guy had a near miss (near hit?) and food is all over the street, but no one is injured.... and I hear this from my upstairs neighbor... "Yo!, You delivering for 'Noodles on 28'?" No time wasted on "are you ok?" |
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Apr 21, 2008 4:04 pm) About time for a power nap. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Apr 21, 2008 12:11 pm) Not necessarily, I have known people that are large/tall that fit rather well in small cars. One person was about 6'3" and 270 pounds. He drove a tiny Civic back in 1980. Another friend was 6'3" and 200 pounds. His wheels were a Geo Metro. Proper design is the key. Another example, I found the Suburban for all its bulk to be about the same in the front passenger seat when compared to my car. |
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Isn't there a law against bringing your laptop to Hawaii?  The latest news report from http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080422/AUTO01/804220375/1148- say that the DOT will propose 35.7 mpg as the new number to meet by 2015. Funny how they announce that on Terra Firma day. It really should be Blue Planet day since most of earth is covered by ocean. On the same page the Detroit news had an article on "Gas guzzlers a hit in China" http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080422/AUTO04/804220331/1364- /AUTO01 Happy Gas Guzzler Day 
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| ...is more and more people on bicycles. My, how the worm has turned! We're riding bicycles in the USA and people in China are enjoying their gas-guzzlers! Thanks, corporate America for selling the U.S. to the lowest bidder! | |
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Apr 22, 2008 3:17 am) The thing is, that seems to happen a lot more with Asian cars, simply because they don't get as tall as Americans typically. And I'm only 6 feet tall. I'm also opposed to leaning the seat back to get more headroom, which I've seen a lot of people do. 
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Replying to: fezo (Apr 21, 2008 1:42 pm) I go all the way - Cape May - specifically the Inn of Cape May. They have a nice package, about $150/night w/free full breakfast and $50/day in the restaurant-bar. It's right across from the beach in the center of the town. NJ is pretty nice in most parts, outside of Camden and Newark. The ocean north of Cape Cod is too chilly for me. Good choice on the Celica. Fun and inexpensive. I'll keep my car insurance though and not yours - I pay about $500/year in NH for my Speed6. |
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Apr 22, 2008 3:17 am) I think how masochistic you are is more key here, rather than "proper design". I'm 6'3", and about 200 pounds, and know I'd be miserable in either of those cars. One thing to keep in mind is that not all 6'3", 200 pound people are built the same way. In my case, I need a lot of legroom, but headroom is usually not too much of an issue. And I need my legroom to be the type where I can stretch out. Some cars with a tall seating position might boast a good measurement for legroom, but in my experience you're just too close to the firewall to really be able to stretch out. I guess what I'm saying is that I'd rather be stretched out in a livingroom recliner than perched on a cheap, thin kitchen chair. Interestingly, the Fit's front legroom is published at 41.9". For comparison, my 2000 Intrepid is 42.2", and I dug up some old stats for my '79 New Yorker and '76 LeMans that put them at 42.3" and 42.5", respectively. However, from sitting in them all, I can tell you that there's a lot more than 6/10" of an inch difference between a Fit and my LeMans! However, the LeMans does have a power seat that goes into some pretty contorted positions. It has a much wider range of motion than my New Yorker. Whenever they list front seat legroom dimensions, they must have some kind of standard they put the seat at, because I notice that on cars with a power seat, the dimension is the same as an equivalent car without a power seat. For instance, an Intrepid R/T or ES would have a power seat, but it's listed at the same 42.2" as my base model, which just has manual fore/aft. If you're comparing an '02 Avalon to a Suburban, I'd agree with you on the legroom and headroom front. Those Avalons are very roomy cars in that degree. They're a bit narrow inside, noticeably narrower than a Suburban. But that's really only going to come into play if you need 3-across seating. The Avalon is also very slab-sided, almost like a mid-60's car, so you don't have the sides curving in, cutting into passenger space like they do on most modern cars. Now back in high school and college, a friend of mine had a 1980 Accord hatchback. I drove it a few times, and it was a pretty good fit for me. Well, at the time at least. That was 20 years ago. Dunno if I'd be able to tolerated it nowadays! 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 22, 2008 4:54 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Apr 22, 2008 4:48 am) Sometime in August I'll do the Cape May ferry which is great. About 70 minutes out on the water and you're in Lewes, Delaware which is another nice little town. Spend the day and take an evening ferry back. Makes for a good day and, staying on topic, saves gas.... |
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