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Re: Good graphic from the NYTimes [gagrice] by larsb
Apr 21, 2008 (12:22 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 10:28 am)

Gary - there you go "showing off" again !!! LOL
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New abode by kernick
Apr 21, 2008 (12:29 pm)
Not quite as nice a neighborhood as gagrice, but hopefully my next house.
 
I've just bought a new car - a Mazdaspeed 6 - I like the size, sportiness, and AWD for New England winters. My GF got my used Jag X-Type. The 6 requires premium per the manual (93, with 91 OK), with the Jag suggesting 91 octane, but can use 87.
We use 93, with a little 87 mixed in the Jag.
 
I'm signing a P&S on a house today 5-6 miles from work vs. my 3.9 miles from my apartment. So a little more gas, but very reasonable. Since my GF and I both rent separate places, we will save a lot - not having 2 sets of bills. The house is oil-heat with a 500gal tank, but a new really efficient furnace. I'm also having them reinstall the wood-stove, and there is a lot of hardwood on the land. So some pluses and minuses.
 
Actually the high cost of gas may be helping some people, as a higher cost of living forces more foreclosures, and lowers real estate values. So are there people getting a house for $50K less, for the price of paying $1,000 more /year in gas? Probably yes.
 
I've got my summer vacation planned and paid for, and $5/gal gas would not stop it - actually going to the NJ beaches, and NJ has the cheapest gas.
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Re: New abode [kernick] by ateixeira
Apr 21, 2008 (12:38 pm)

Replying to: kernick (Apr 21, 2008 12:29 pm)

Congrats. That car was underappreciated.
 
The Speed3 sells better despite the torque steer and transaction prices no lower than the AWD Speed6.
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Re: Good graphic from the NYTimes [steve_] by kdhspyder
Apr 21, 2008 (1:08 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Apr 21, 2008 9:39 am)

we can't really compare one country's fuel economy numbers to another's without using the same testing methodology. Even within the US there are two systems. The NYT article correctly states that Honda has all but achieved the 2020 CAFE standards today with their current fleet.
 
But that's using the NHTSA testing criteria which is at least 30+ years old. Those numbers are inflated by about 20% ( c.f. article herein on Edmunds about 35 mpg actually meaning 27-28 mpg ).
 
But Japan and Europe use different methods entirely. Also each has different emissions controls.
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Re: New abode [kernick] by fezo
Apr 21, 2008 (1:42 pm)

Replying to: kernick (Apr 21, 2008 12:29 pm)

Nice purchases there - both the house and car. Wouldn't mind a Mazdaspeed 6 myself.
 
Where down the Jersey shore? We've got some nice places and some crazy ones. I live 5 miles off the ocean down here.
 
On topic, I did one thing on the subject of expensive gas. I bought a 99 Celica convertible. Now I only need to drive the Ody when I need something that big.
 
Before any one points out that this isn't saving me money I already know that but it made it more reasonable to do something I wanted to do.
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Re: New abode [fezo] by steve_ HOST
Apr 21, 2008 (1:49 pm)

Replying to: fezo (Apr 21, 2008 1:42 pm)

Congrat Kernick!
 
That's a funny looking Piņa Colada glass you're using there, Gary.
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Re: even my own family... [oldfarmer50] by explorerx4
Apr 21, 2008 (3:36 pm)

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Apr 20, 2008 5:50 am)

i never will be, unless they stop running up the bills!
can barely afford my edmunds annual dues.
actually, i have a couple of great kids.
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Re: Good graphic from the NYTimes [larsb] by oldfarmer50
Apr 21, 2008 (3:39 pm)

Replying to: larsb (Apr 21, 2008 12:22 pm)

"...Gary- there you go "showing off" again!!!..."
 
I was going to say the same thing. Stop rubbing THAT in our faces.
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Re: Yeah... [fintail] by tedebear
Apr 21, 2008 (3:55 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Apr 21, 2008 7:44 am)

In Europe pizzas are usually delivered on mopeds, at least on my experience. Might be a good idea for here
 
Bike messengers are popular in large cities like New York. I wonder if anyone has thought about trying the idea for delivery of other things?
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Re: Good graphic from the NYTimes [gagrice] by explorerx4
Apr 21, 2008 (4:04 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 10:28 am)

the picture looks great, but what's the water temperature?
i hate cold water (giving gary another to do some needling).
that's a cute slipper you have on.

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