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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 9:34 am) Ok, a quick skim says that "the Japanese carmaker’s fleet already averages 35 miles a gallon." The graphic was the new car fleet requirement, so another 11 mpg seems doable from where they are starting.
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Replying to: 1stpik (Apr 21, 2008 4:22 am) We were at the Safeway in Hilo last evening. The store was full of people doing their weekly shopping. Carts were full of soda, cereal and frozen pizza. The produce department was nearly empty. The fact is one out of every two families in Hawaii are on some sort of assistance. So how do they afford all this processed junk food and soda? I saw an article on food stamps in NJ. The max you can get is $542 per month with a family of 4. I could eat steak once a week on that much money. Maybe folks will start thinking about what they put in their bellies when it starts to cost like it does in the rest of the world. Eating out in not a necessity, it is a LUXURY. When I was a kid we did not eat out 5 times a year. There is still plenty of room for higher gas prices in even the poorest budget.
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 21, 2008 9:39 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 9:34 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 9:47 am) Gas is holding at $3.65 per gallon here. Filled the Equinox once and got 20.63 MPG. Life is tough... |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 9:55 am) drum roll ... follow the money. And I don't mean the pittance that Mr. Gore is bringing in.  Detroit keeps building dinosaurs, the chicken tax keeps Chevy Luv type trucks from Thailand out, and the rest of us pay at the pump. You must be having an awful time in Hawaii - is it raining non-stop or something? I hope you at least have a laptop out on the lanai. Not that we don't enjoy your company, but dude, surf's up. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 9:34 am) Well if Japan's figures are anything like the US figures, they use different numbers for fleet averages than they do for what's in the window stickers. For instance, that 27.5 that gets thrown around for US cars is taken from radically different, much more optimistic numbers than what gets printed on the EPA sticker. For example remember when the Prius was rated something like 61/50? Well the CAFE numbers are even more generous than that. They'd probably put a Prius at something like 75/60! The Japanese also have all sorts of cars for the home market that are much smaller than what they sell here. A Yaris or Fit is probably considered midsize over there! 
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 21, 2008 10:03 am) 
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 21, 2008 9:55 am) Don't forget, a huge percentage of their fleet is tiny tiny cars making 50 mpg plus. The Prius is FAR from the "best they've got". In Japan Prius is a large car. It's clearly time for Americans to downsize. Even China is making/shooting for 36 mpg! Now if they could just get out of the business of powering everything with dirty coal plants, that would be very meaningful...
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 21, 2008 11:40 am) In other words, Americans might not easily fit in some of these cars that are being built for Asia.
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