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Re: how about this idea? [tedebear] by explorerx4
Apr 18, 2008 (6:33 pm)

Replying to: tedebear (Apr 18, 2008 1:46 pm)

massachusets has many of those traffic circles. they suck, especially if you are a timid driver.
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Re: at today's close [nippononly] by explorerx4
Apr 18, 2008 (6:36 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Apr 18, 2008 5:11 pm)

the more people in a car pool, the more complicated it gets. do you have to pay for parking?
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Geeze! by lemko
Apr 19, 2008 (4:40 am)
I just filled up my girlfriend's Buick LaCrosse yesterday morning after dropping her off at the airport. It had jumped overnight from a ridiculous $3.27 to an absurd $3.33 for Sunoco Regular. This morning it's an insane $3.39 for regular! How the (censored) can it jump 18 cents in two days?!?!? Either we're being viciously gas-raped or we're experiencing some Weimar-esque inflation! Looks like it's time to break out the Nikes.
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Re: Geeze! [lemko] by mickeyrom
Apr 19, 2008 (5:39 am)

Replying to: lemko (Apr 19, 2008 4:40 am)

$3.39 would be a bargain here.I filled up our Town & Country yesterday at $3.49 and that is in Illinois,not the West Coast. I have cut back on the driving so much that after the previous fill up, which was on the fifth of March,I needed less than 15 gallons. No more joy rides,no more trips to Davenport Ia to shop and see a movie.That now all that is just a fond memory.
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Re: Geeze! [mickeyrom] by snakeweasel
Apr 19, 2008 (6:23 am)

Replying to: mickeyrom (Apr 19, 2008 5:39 am)

filled up our Town & Country yesterday at $3.49 and that is in Illinois,
 
Its $3.65 here in the burbs of Chicago
 
Going to Davenport to shop and see movies, you must live in northern IL near either I-80 or I-88 west of I-39. I know some people out that way in Princeton, they are hurting because the need to burn a gallon of gas to to pick up groceries.
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Re: Geeze! [lemko] by kernick
Apr 19, 2008 (8:32 am)

Replying to: lemko (Apr 19, 2008 4:40 am)

Those are exactly the types of cuts people are going to have to do, and can do. They are not absolutely essential, and are basically recreational. Only thru decreased demand will the market stabilize. it's going to be a new reality for many people.
 
If you want to have a more luxurious lifestyle I suggest you start figuring out how to make more $.
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Re: Geeze! [kernick] by ny540i6
Apr 19, 2008 (8:54 am)

Replying to: kernick (Apr 19, 2008 8:32 am)

Am I so out of touch that going to a movie has become a "luxury" while I was not looking?
 
My real concerns are around the trickle down effects of rising gas prices - so we go to fewer movies - theaters close, kids and adults looking for the supplemental second job lose opportunity. Cost of transporting goods increases - those hikes are passed on to the consumer, and since we don't all have the room/ability to grow our own food and clothing, everyone is affected, some more than others... and so on, and so on...
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Re: Geeze! [ny540i6] by kernick
Apr 19, 2008 (12:08 pm)

Replying to: ny540i6 (Apr 19, 2008 8:54 am)

Maybe movies isn't a luxury, but certainly 300-station cable and cell-phones would be to people 10 or 20 years ago. Many of the things you now "need" certainly weren't part of the lifestyle years ago. Most families had 1 car if they were lucky, or the 2nd car was worth $300 - I remember my brother's '63(?) Rambler was $225.
 
An article in yesterday's aper actually addressed that we now take many luxuries for granted. http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-04-17-options-standard-loaded_N.htm
 
Maybe if we spent less on the car, we'd have more $ for the gas?
 
Your concerns abut the trickle-down effect are real. However it is increased economic activity which is running up our fossil fuel use. Something has to give. The more people on Earth the less for each! Maybe we better hope that we don't find a way to keep every living to 200? or 300?
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Re: BOYCOTT every last US automaker except Honda!! [kernick] by farout
Apr 19, 2008 (12:53 pm)

Replying to: kernick (Apr 18, 2008 9:00 am)

Kendrick: Here is what we use for heat. We have a Waterford Irish wood stove that is as polutant free as you can buy. They are now hard to find and very costly, as the Euro has gone out of sight. Lemans a Almish catalogue store in Ohio sells them. We have oil filled radient heaters in every bedroom. With this we can heat a room or close it off. We have 1900 sq feet and our electric bill is below most. When the power fails we can cook on the Waterford, and prophane lights do the trick. We are retired, and living in a rural area we are prepared to live more than a week should be be snowed or iced in. Hope this gives you some encouragement.
 
farout
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Re: BOYCOTT every last US automaker except Honda!! [kscng] by farout
Apr 19, 2008 (2:04 pm)

Replying to: kscng (Apr 17, 2008 8:25 pm)

kscng, David: You seem like a person who really desires a better enviorment, and is concerned about the energy we use. I admire you for your stand.
   However, David, the hard facts are that the energy situation is not as simple as one solution will resolve the majority of problems. It seems to me that you may have some other issues other than just energy, to suggest boycotting every last automaker except Honda.
    Natural gas has it's problems, like lack of lubercation to the valves, just to name one. To suggest that one fuel or automaker can solve the energy crisis is rather narrow thinking. When we take many great solutions and each accomplishes a singificant reduction in polution, and energy savings, that will be the better way.
   To suggest that we should boycott US vehicles is mindless, and would serve only to put our economy, and financial furture in the tolet and flush ourselves down the sewer! You can't be serious? This is a country that we have freedom to earn and spend as we see fit. At least that is what many have fought and died for to have and cherrish.
   I say that for anyone to state a Auto maker from Japan should be the ONLY vehicle in the US us to say the least offensive. Japan owes the US big time! Had not the US spent millions upon millions of US citizens hard earned tax dollars to rebuild their country, Japan would be in the same shape as North Korea is today.
   US automakers have taken a bad rap from such bias magizines as Consumer Reports, which unless it's made anywhere but the US is a better vehicle! Bull Pucky!
   So you just might want to re-think your request to boycott US automakers. David, it's a real bad idea!
 
farout

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