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Replying to: larsb (Apr 16, 2008 12:43 pm) That article wasn't written by Gary or I, but I could find other local reporters who have written the same thing. And to say "no one should attack Mass Transit" is just sticking your head in the sand. When something is lousy and corrupt , you should encourage people to complain. I'm glad the cities you have lived in have not been that way. Big City Mass Transit provides a real and valuable service to millions of Americans. It still doesn't mean it's any good. Sawdust and glue used to be mixed in the bread in Russia which many millions were glad to eat. 
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Replying to: kernick (Apr 16, 2008 1:20 pm) As for whether transit (or any other system) should be subject to criticism - of course it should be; everything can be improved. The statement "Mass transit is no good" makes no sense in a vacuum - If you agree that the job of transit is moving people, then it works. We might agree that it could be more comfortable, more efficient, less crowded, etc etc, however the primary purpose is being achieved, and in most cases, cost efficiently. |
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 16, 2008 12:44 pm) I hope you aren't DRIVING that commute !!! A short distance like that would hardly be worth the effort to put on my cycling shoes but I'd be embarrassed to drive it. Mine is 34 miles RT. I finally convinced a co-worker to start pedaling to work. He has a 4 mile commute and today was his first attempt. Yesterday he said he was going to leave 1 hour early "just in case". He arrived with 45 minutes to spare and called me to say that there are now two bikes on the parking lot.  |
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Replying to: kernick (Apr 16, 2008 1:20 pm) But as an overall concept, mass transit works and provides an invaluable service. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 16, 2008 1:01 pm) Blame Bush, he gets it for everything. I think Chaney might have taken the scooter though.
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Apr 16, 2008 1:53 pm) Pedalling a moped - now that's a weight loss system. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 10, 2008 7:33 am) 1883, that is a long time.
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Apr 16, 2008 5:54 pm) 1883, that is a long time. Thats a long time to be out of work, bet his unemployment ran out a long time ago. |
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We had a meeting the other day at work. People were talking about car pooling. Only problem, everyone lives just 1-5 miles away and they are scattered around town. The logistics would be a nightmare for many. Everyone also has a busy schedule and errands after work. In the summer people are often on different work schedules. I use about 15 gallons a month of petrol. Gasoline is worth at least $8 a gallon to me for the convenience it provides. If gasoline was to go higher I would look at getting a car with better MPG. I'm not saying I would buy another car, I would just look. My last fill netted 18.5 mpg (all in town driving). Cheap transportation if you ask me. It is hard to justify spending $100, $200 or $300 a month in car payments to save $20 or $30 a month in petrol. The people that will get burned as prices rise to $4 a gallon are the long commuters and low income folks that have a larger/older gas guzzler. Gasoline just went up 22 cents in two days. It didn't bother me one bit. To put it in perspective, my gasoline bill per month has gone from $20 a month ten years ago to $50 now. My cell phone bill, on the other hand, went from zero (didn't have one back then) to $100 a month (for the family). I think we have a few other people that post on the board that are in the same position. Gasoline is going to need to get a lot higher before it impacts us in a meaningful way. And yes, I have thought about getting rid of my gas guzzler to save the world. Only problem with that is someone else will buy the car and drive it. The car is in good shape and should last another 10 years. Also, what will be the best kind of vehicle/engine to have in the future. Will it be diesel, hybrid, hybrid diesel, hydrogen, air, electric, eco boost, fuel cells or something else. 
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 16, 2008 12:18 pm) I'm lucky that all the cars in my "fleet" take regular. That said, I most recently paid $3.79 (on Sunday), and the nearest station to my house is up to $3.91 now, up 5 cents as of Monday last. So absurd is all relative... Remember when a few years back everyone was predicting that the economy as we know it would just grind to a complete halt if oil ever exceeded $100/barrel? That includes some posters right here at Edmunds, IIRC, and at the time $100 was considered some ridiculous, fantastical figure that would'nt be reached for decades. Oil closed just high of $115 today, up a couple of bucks just since the beginning of this week. The worst this year is yet to come, but I wonder if any of the so-called experts out there can really predict anything meaningful about oil and gas prices and availability in the future...
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