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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 12, 2008 1:49 pm) The Echo does a lot better (46+ on highway trips), which is why I usually take that car for the longer trips when I'm not carrying a bunch of stuff or extra people.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 12, 2008 9:08 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 13, 2008 6:31 am) According to the EPA figures, there's actually not much difference. A 2000 Echo, for instance, is rated at 34/41 with the stick shift, while a 2007 Yaris stick is 34/40. Using the newer, lower numbers, that drops a bit to 29/36 with the Yaris, 29/37 with the Echo. It's also been mentioned that with the Echo and Yaris, it's not hard to beat the EPA figures. And any leadfoot could still probably beat the new downrated numbers.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 13, 2008 7:17 am) But even in the Echo, I am up to almost 9 cents/mile just for the gas alone. That seems pretty high whan you consider that three years ago at this time, it ran about half that. That was a few months before Katrina, when gas prices jumped way up, never to subside again here in California. It's funny, looking back, that we took such affront at the $3 gas prices back then. They look pretty good today as I pay $4/gallon, and I imagine we will look back in 2010 and long for the good ol' days of $4 gas....
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 13, 2008 10:01 am)  about 47-48 mpg. The cost per mile using VA gas which is E10 is about $3.15-$3.20 ( $.9.50 ) or about 6.55 cents/mi. Using NC gas which has no ethanol in it I get 49-50 mpg thus use about 2.9 gal but at a price of $3.25 / gal. That's still $9.50 or about 6.55 cents/mi. The Lord Giveth and the Lord Taketh Away...or less piously 'You can pay me now or you can pay me later.'
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I've averaged around 16 MPG for the 145K miles that I've driven my car since I got it in 2003. I still have the window sticker, and it was rated (2003 rating) at 15 City, 23 Highway. I've seen huge swings - my typical city commute can drop a tank to 12MPG, at an average speed of 17-20 MPH. If I take the machine out on the open road, I've gone a couple hundred miles at 2500 RPM in 6th gear, and averaged 26-29 MPG. This feels like the "sweet spot" for this engine... I know that if I run the thing flat out - above 3000 RPM in 5th, let's say, it will suck fuel at a rate of about 14-15 MPG. Ironically, when I look at the economy conundrum, I wonder about where my gains would be - as much as I love the open road, if I were to try to roll along at 1500/2000 RPM in 6th to save some fuel, I'm not sure of how beneficial - I don't spend as much time as I would like on highways, and the city economy isn't gonna change much, no matter what. I have definitely eliminated idling time when waiting though. |
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April 16, 2008 Impatient Subway Riders Revolt in Chicago By CATRIN EINHORN CHICAGO — The packed rush-hour subway train had been stopped for about an hour Tuesday morning, held up by a malfunctioning train ahead. In air hot and stuffy, the passengers had turned nervous and impatient. Ignoring pleas of transit workers, they decided to leave the train and walk through the dimly lighted tunnel toward freedom. The unauthorized evacuation, transit officials said, caused a bigger problem. Fearing that passengers could be electrocuted by the third rail, officials cut off power to part of the Blue Line, which travels a large U-shaped route between the West Side and O’Hare International Airport. Service was disrupted for about four hours, and more than a thousand passengers had to be helped off several trains. “If those particular passengers had not self-evacuated, we could have gotten people out on trains and restored service much sooner,” said Ron Huberman, president of the Chicago Transit Authority. Esmeralda Cuevas, 26, who works as an administrative assistant, was on the train immediately behind the stalled one when she saw a few people walk by a window of her car. “I felt a sense like I want to be with them,” Ms. Cuevas said. “I was impressed with their courage. I thought, ‘I can stay in here with these people and feel hot and uncomfortable, or I can start walking.’ ” Walk she did. So did an undetermined number of other passengers from a total of four trains, who forged ahead despite intercom announcements asking them to return. About two hours after her ordeal began, Ms. Cuevas emerged from the subway crying, dirt on her hands and face. An executive at her office advised her to avoid the subway for a few days and take cabs. Since he did not offer to pay, she said, she plans to take the train, but on an elevated line. You can have your big cities and Mass Transit. I will take the peace and quiet of the country and my Sequoia. I don't care if gas is $20 per gallon. I just will consolidate my trips.
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 16, 2008 8:31 am) "Making a Mountain Out Of A MoleHill - By Gary" For every instance like this - (what, once or twice in a transit system's history?) there are MILLIONS of people who take mass transit without incident and save themselves tons of money and time and frustration in the meantime. There are hundreds of millions of riders every year who never see ANY sort of interruption of their commute. Mass Transit is not an experiment. It's a proven system which saves millions of people dollars and minutes every year worldwide. It's not perfect, but it's safer than riding in a car. And it's easier on the transportation dollar, USUALLY. And it's much better for pollution control. |
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