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Re: Exurbia's Long Costly Commutes [gagrice] by andre1969
Apr 10, 2008 (5:07 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Apr 09, 2008 5:47 pm)

had to drive 75 miles each way from the farm. That was when I had the 1979 Honda Accord. That was so stressful I called my old boss in Alaska and got my job back the next week.
 
So which was more stressful...the long commute or the tiny car you had to make it in?
 
A friend of mine back in college had a 1980 Accord hatchback. I drove it a few times. Actually, it wasn't a bad little car for 1 or 2 people. Acceleration was really slow, but once it got moving it seemed pretty quiet and stable for such a small car.
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Re: Exurbia's Long Costly Commutes [ny540i6] by andre1969
Apr 10, 2008 (5:15 am)

Replying to: ny540i6 (Apr 09, 2008 7:59 pm)

Depending on where you live, and/or the hours you work, it often makes more sense to measure commuting in time, rather than in distance
 
That's certainly true. I don't mind a longer drive, just as long as I'm moving. I hate sitting still in congested traffic...seems to make the time drag out. I'd rather have a job 60 miles away that I could get to in an hour, rather than one 10 miles away that still takes an hour to get to.
 
I've gotten spoiled though, with my commute. It's never been more than 14 miles, and maybe 35 minutes on a bad day. Actually, I take that back. For about 5 months, when I was working a second evening job, when I finally got off it was about 21 miles home. But that was also around 10:00 at night, mostly highway, and I was often home in 20-25 mins.
 
My current commute is about 3.5 miles each way, and it's very rare that it takes me more than 10 minutes. If I suddenly had to go back to a more "typical" commute, it would probably be a shock to me. I'd get used to it though, in time.
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Extremes by 1stpik
Apr 10, 2008 (5:52 am)
I commute 10 miles each way to work, and it's 90% highway. On a bad day, I hit two traffic lights along the way.
 
I work with a guy who commutes 80 miles each way, and has to deal with Dallas traffic on I-35 every day. Pure insanity!
 
So, for two years, I've been trying to convince him to sell his house and buy a new one closer to work. I told him that the amount of money he spends on gasoline could go toward improving his quality of life now, or securing a comfy retirement in the future.
 
I told him how, since we both perform the same job, I'm getting paid significantly more because I don't have to spend an extra $25/day on gas like he does.
 
I told him that he's spending 22 days per year just on his commute -- the equivalent of three weeks vacation.
 
He's starting to talk about moving ..... so I think I'm getting through to him.
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Re: Exurbia's Long Costly Commutes [andre1969] by gagrice
Apr 10, 2008 (5:56 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 10, 2008 5:07 am)

Actually the Accord was better to drive long distances than the 1976 Datsun PU it replaced. It was the time wasted sitting in a vehicle for an hour and a half going to work and coming home from work that had me stressed out. Remember that was during the WORST time for the USA in my lifetime. The Carter administration. I had to work the farm and a carpenter job in the city to pay my bills. I just picked the wrong time to become a farmer.
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Re: Exurbia's Long Costly Commutes [lemko] by chadx
Apr 10, 2008 (6:10 am)

Replying to: lemko (Apr 09, 2008 12:27 pm)

Here is the scariest quote from that article:
 
"This house, he and Dawn explain, is not a McMansion they cannot afford. Quite simply, it represents what they always believed: The next generation deserves a better life."
 
I guess that can be taken two ways, but the way the author combined it in with the house comment, makes it sound like they feel they deserve to have a bigger house and nicer material things. If they mean it as quality of life and happiness, the author did them a dis-service by making it sound material.
 
If it is a material thing, that seems an all too common way of thinking. People think they deserve one thing or another when there is no such thing. Life is about choices. What job you have (and how far it is from home). How much education you choose to pursue. Where you live (city, state, etc). What kind of car you buy. How big of a family you choose to have and support. Where you spend your money. All of those things shape your life and "standard of living". Even standard of living is in the eye of the beholder. There are a lot of people that make due with much less and are way happier than someone in a big house, new car, a big screen TV.
 
Above and beyond the basics of survival, standard of living is more of a mindset than anything that can be defined by material things. "Success" being another of those words that can only be defined from within. Advertising is always working it's magic, though, and making us feel inadequate if we don't have the latest and greatest [fill in the item here], just like your neighbors, family, or friends.
 
And I don't get the entitlement thing. Even a fair number of kids graduating from college seem to have this thought of entitlement. Immediately after graduation, they think they should be able to afford a nice, brand new house and car since that is what they were used to when they lived with their parents. Well, most of those parents worked a loooong time to be able to work up to a nice house. When you first start out, if you can rent any form of shelter, even if you have to share with room mates, your doing just fine.
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This just in... by circlew
Apr 10, 2008 (7:22 am)
With the peak summer driving season still to come and crude oil prices rising too, gas may reach the retail price of $4 a gallon that the Energy Department has been forecasting.
 
Duh!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: This just in... [circlew] by steve_ HOST
Apr 10, 2008 (7:33 am)

Replying to: circlew (Apr 10, 2008 7:22 am)

Gas bumped 6 cents here this week. Glad I work at home. Hate to keep rubbing it in that I haven't had a commute since '83 so I won't.
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Re: This just in... [steve_] by andre1969
Apr 10, 2008 (8:07 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Apr 10, 2008 7:33 am)

That no commute thing must be nice! Although I can't complain about my 3.5 mile commute to work. I filled up my Intrepid last Wednesday, and I've only gone about 58 miles since then.
 
Local Shell station is up to $3.379 for 87, and I think the Citgo is $3.339.
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Re: This just in... [andre1969] by dieselone
Apr 10, 2008 (8:36 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 10, 2008 8:07 am)

Well, I haven't hit the $100 fill-up yet but getting close. We just got back from a camping trip and when I filled the Suburban up on Friday night I put in 27 gallons 3.39 which totaled $91.53. Our destination was 440 miles away and towing nearly 6,000 lbs camper yielded an avg of 9.5mpg (which I was happy with), so it cost about $300 in gas for our trip (plus another $50 in gas driving around), and $140 for the campsite. Still a cheap vacation for a family of 4 plus a Dalmatian. Lots of RVs on the road, people may not travel as far, but they still traveling.
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Re: This just in... [steve_] by circlew
Apr 10, 2008 (8:41 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Apr 10, 2008 7:33 am)

6 cents a big jum..here is today's national high, you lucky dog!
 
Highest Recorded Price:
Regular Unl. $3.357 4/10/2008
DSL. $4.045 4/10/2008
 
I'd think the high will go to $3.40 by next week considering the inventory went down and crude price rose.
 
Regards,
OW

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