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Re: Record Prices... [bobw3] by dieselone
Mar 14, 2008 (10:07 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 9:43 am)

What do you have? 3 kids? But there are options other than a suburban. My Freestyle hold 4 kids in carseats and will get 27mpg driving 70mph on the highway. And there are quite a few new CUVs that will do at least as well as your GrandPrix on gas.
 
True, but they can't tow our 4500lb boat or 6,000lb camper, plus people and gear. Not to mention we currently don't have any car payments, so paying for gas is really a non-issue.
 
We have 2 girls 9 & 5 that are at that "she's touching me stage". I know it's excessive, but when they each have their own row, they fight about 1/10th as much.
 
The Freestar/Taurus X make a lot of since for those who need room & AWD. We had a 2006 500 (wife's company car) which we liked for the most part (loved the room and gas mileage was decent, high 20's on hwy). Now my wife has an '07 GrandPrix (company car) which I can't wait to get that POS out of our driveway. We used to take the 500 on trips all of the time, now we never drive the GP and take the Suburban instead 'cause the GP is so damn uncomfortable.
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ORNL / PHEVs by kdhspyder
Mar 14, 2008 (10:10 am)
From GCC..
Oak Ridge Natl Laboratory studied the potential effects of PHEVs on the power generation system.
 
"ORNL Study Explores PHEVs’ Impact on Power Generation Requirements
13 March 2008
   
Sum for all 13 regions of projected 2030 generating capacity (top left), base generation (top right), and new generation dispatched (bottom) to meet demand for each PHEV recharging scenario. Click to enlarge.
A recent Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) study examines how an expected increase in ownership of plug-in hybrid electric cars and trucks could affect regional power generation requirements depending on what time of day or night the vehicles are charged. The researchers concluded that supporting a 25% market share of light-duty (cars and SUVs) PHEVs in 2030 could require either major new power generation resources or no new resources at all, depending on when people recharge.
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Interesting..I'd plan on there being some restrictions on recharging times.
link to the whole article
 
Here's an interesting nuance also. Somebody commissioned this study giving them certain assumptions/parameters. One of which apparently is the national fleet being as much as 25% PHEVs by 2020. Hmmmmm
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Re: Record Prices... [dieselone] by bobw3
Mar 14, 2008 (11:56 am)

Replying to: dieselone (Mar 14, 2008 10:07 am)

Got it. It's a little different when you have a genuine need for big towing, and if your wife is given a car, then that changes things too.
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Re: Record Prices... [bobw3] by dieselone
Mar 14, 2008 (12:35 pm)

Replying to: bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 11:56 am)

The company car is definitely a huge perk. I remember when we both had commutes before she had a company car, back around '99-'01. She had a minivan and I had a midsize car and we're spending $500+/mo on gas back then. I don't want to think what that kind of driving would cost today, easily $1,000+/mo.
 
Now I basically drive very little during the week, so normally we don't have more than $200/mo + gas for weekend get aways, so it's really not an issue even though I drive a vehicle that gets poor mileage.
 
The Suburban meets our needs/wants. Currently, I just can't justify buying an extra car just for better fuel economy. The cost of the car + insurance, maintenance, etc. still doesn't make financial sense.
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Re: In about a month... [andre1969] by snakeweasel
Mar 14, 2008 (4:35 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 14, 2008 6:34 am)

I wonder, do those aftermarket air intake kits for modern cars really do much for mpg and performance?
 
Only if you believe it does.
 
The reality of it is different.
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Re: What will you do when gas price rises above $4/ gallon? [altest] by srickard
Mar 14, 2008 (5:50 pm)

Replying to: altest (Apr 05, 2007 9:40 am)

I'll just keep driving my Prius past the gas stations just like I do now!
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Re: What will you do when gas price rises above $4/ gallon? [altest] by irismg
Mar 14, 2008 (6:27 pm)

Replying to: altest (Apr 05, 2007 9:40 am)

Wow. Well, I was a teenager in the 70s when they had the gas rationing, and I hope they don't go back to that. It would be nice if I could drive less, but it's very likely to go over $4 in the summer of 2008, and summer in Oklahoma means 90 degrees plus, which means whenever I DO drive, I'll be using A/C and thus more gas.
 
Maybe if we're all forced to drive less, the demand will decrease and so will the price? And, I suppose I could cut back on my Haagen Dasz to make up for the increase in the transportation budget, but the Netflix stays!
 
I shudder to think what the price of airline tickets is going to be this summer. Wow.
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Typical American by 1stpik
Mar 15, 2008 (4:34 am)
When gasoline went from $2 to $3, I paid, but I complained 50% more than usual.
 
When gasoline goes from $3 to $4, I'll pay, but I'll complain only 33% more.
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I scream, you scream ..... by 1stpik
Mar 15, 2008 (4:42 am)
"I suppose I could cut back on my Haagen Dasz to make up for the increase in the transportation budget."
 
Since the price of food is rising along with the price of gas, I fear that any Haagen Dasz rationing would have little effect on your overall budget.
 
And isn't Haagen Dasz wholesale price in Euros? Considering the dollar's rapid devaluation, maybe it's time to switch to Blue Bunny.
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Re: What will you do when gas price rises above $4/ gallon? [irismg] by fezo
Mar 15, 2008 (6:53 am)

Replying to: irismg (Mar 14, 2008 6:27 pm)

"Wow. Well, I was a teenager in the 70s when they had the gas rationing, and I hope they don't go back to that."
 
Well, it wasn't quite rationing in those days. They did the odd even day thing and the lines disappeared pretty quickly.
 
Real rationing is more in the line of what we had in WWII where you actually had to have a ration coupon to buy gas.

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