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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 17, 2008 9:08 am) I lost the cap on my '68 Dart once. It was an original-equipment cap too. Body color, and flush-mounted. Lotsa luck finding another one of those! I ended up buying a cheap chrome one from Trak Auto for about 5 bucks. Oddly though, that cap stayed on the car for several miles. I had filled up at the gas station, then drove to the bank about 2 miles away. Then, on my way back to work from the bank, at a traffic light, a guy pulled up beside me and said he had just seen my cap roll off the back of the car! So it held on for about 3 miles, I guess! I looked all over for it, but couldn't find it. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 17, 2008 9:04 am) The manual override in the trunk for the fuel door is a complex hydraulic cylinder looking thing rather than a simple pull cable. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 17, 2008 10:11 am) What was the deal with the domestic obsession for putting the filler door and trunk openers in the glove box? I'm mildly surprised they didn't put the hood opener and sunroof controls in there, too. |
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 17, 2008 10:32 am) |
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 17, 2008 10:32 am) I dunno what GM's excuse for it was, but it sort of made sense with Chrysler. Back in the day when cars came with two keys, Chrysler used one key for the doors and ignition, and another key for the trunk and glovebox. So I guess the idea was that you could lend the car to someone, or let a valet park it, giving them just the one key, and they wouldn't be able to easily get into the trunk or glovebox. Now once upon a time, with GM cars, the square head key worked both the doors and ignition, while the round key did the glovebox and trunk, but sometime in the 70's, they made it square head ignition only, round key for trunk and doors and glovebox. I never understood that logic. One oddity though, is that back in the day, sometimes a glovebox lock was optional. So I wonder if a car was ever equipped with a remote trunk opener, yet no lock on the glovebox? I dunno when glovebox locks became standard, but my '85 Silverado doesn't have one. Yet otherwise it's fairly well equipped for a truck of that era, with power windows/locks, cruise, tilt wheel, etc. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 17, 2008 11:35 am) Speaking of Mopar, did you ever notice that many Mopar glovebox doors flip up rather than down? It's one of those strange qualities those older cars had like putting the toothed edge of the ignition key facing up rather than down as on GM cars. From what I remember, Ford cars had a toothed key edge on both sides.
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 17, 2008 12:35 pm) I think it was only some of the '68-70 Mopar intermediates that had the flip-up glovebox doors. IIRC it was either the Dodges or the Plymouths that did it, but I don't think they both did. There were some Oldsmobiles that did that, too. The '66-67 Cutlass had flip-up glovebox doors. The '88 Cutlass Supreme did, as well, and I think the '92-99 88 did. As for the teeth facing up instead of down on the key, I dunno if there's any truth to this, but I heard that actually reduced wear on the lock cylinder. Maybe it had to do something with the moveable parts of the cylinder being above the key rather than below...that way it was harder for dirt and other junk to get caught in them? I've never had a Ford product, new or old, so I can't comment on 'em. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 17, 2008 12:35 pm) Ford came out with the double-sided key in the mid-1960s, and it was first among the domestics (don't know about the imports) to have this feature. The key worked regardless of which way it was inserted into the ignition. A surprising number of contemporary road tests commented (favorably) on this feature when Ford introduced it. |
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Replying to: tpe (Jan 17, 2008 5:17 am) Well just remember that no tax money is used on toll roads and no toll money in used on non toll roads. The government is the primary advocate for tolls because it represents an additional source of revenue. Not sure about other places but its a little more complicated than that here in Illinois. A long time ago legislators from downstate got it passed that for every highway dollar spent in the Chicago area a dollar of highway money needed to be spent somewhere in the rest of the state. One of the reasons for the toll system in Illinois is to get around that rule. Since tax money is not being spent on the toll roads the state doesn't have to "match" that spending downstate.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 17, 2008 11:35 am) I had a car once (I think it was my Chevy) where the key operated everything but there was a second "valet" key which wouldn't open the glovebox or trunk but would operate the doors and ignition. |
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