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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 07, 2007 3:56 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Apr 07, 2007 1:24 pm) Couple of more questions: do diesel vehicles last as long as gasoline ones do? Is starting diesel vehicles in cold weather very difficult?
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 7:35 pm) |
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Based on my current miles per year, and love of fast cars, I don't see changing much of anything if gas were to go to $4 tomorrow. I drive less than 7000 miles a year, so no biggie. Yes, I still grumble at the pump. But as soon as I turn the key, that V-8 grumble pushes it out of my mind (until the next fill up). Heck for every dollar per gallon increase, I'm only out $350 (figuring 20mpg). Each year of ownership probably runs me more in insurance, interest, tires, or repairs. However, that's a choice each one of us must make. We can gripe about gas prices and how Big Oil is ripping us off, but there's not much we can do about it. Our government could, but that would mean making the current CAFE standards look like sheer gluttony which would kill SUV and truck sales and put the final nail in Detroit's coffin.
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Replying to: altest (Apr 07, 2007 7:38 pm) I worked the last 25 years in the Arctic and diesel engines are all that was used. Gas engines would not hold up to the idling for long periods of time. Diesel engines started fine. They have to be plugged in when the temp does not get above 40 below for weeks on end. The 15% was the interest on buying a home. It was hard to get better than 18% on a new car. Money is too easy to get now. It will be the cause of our next recession. $4 gas will just help it along.
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not ever falling below $2.00/gal for 87 no-lead again? Just watching the numbers the last few years gradually moving upwards and barely moving downwards at all and thinking about foreign dudes making great profits off of us just secures the thought in my mind that we will never, ever, never again pay less than $2.00 for a gallon of 87 no-lead. Ever never. 
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Replying to: altest (Apr 07, 2007 7:38 pm) But I have tried to stay ahead of the curve on this issue for the last few years. Kept driving my SUV by cutting my commute by about 75 percent about 15 years ago. Cut my cost again by selling the SUV and getting a Diesel Pickup and two compacts about five years ago. I have cut my commute again and sold the pickup and one of the compacts. Of course it is tempting me to reason my way into a Sporster, or even a rice burner V-twin. Right now gas would have to reach more than 9 bucks a gallon for me to spend what I did a year ago. In fact once I got rid of my Boat I don't think I have paid as much for gas a year as I used to for slip rent and insurance. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 07, 2007 9:42 pm) me: Here's a couple of points to consider - 1) Most of these oil producing countries don't have much else for an economy, and if you look at what they're grossing the number of people in the country and then compare it to the size of our economy, I still feel sorry for them. Oh, sure there are a few in each country who are getting very rich. 2) what are these countries going to do in 20 or 30 years or whatever for an economy when their oil starts declining? Sell sand? If you read up on Iran you find they have this problem of being very reliant on oil revenue, and oil production is declining, with internal demand increasing. Also everyone should remember that if oil prices increase, oil usage will have to decrease globally based on your ability and willingness to pay for it. Who will be forced to reduce the consumption first? Answer - the poorer people of the world. Don't be among them! Also if gasoline rises too fast, I'm not worried about $ paid at the pump. The economic consequences are much higher - most people would pay far more in total $, in losses in stocks and retirement, inflation would go up as shipping and raw materials go up (plastics are made from petroleum products) ... And maybe the economy shrinks and you lose your job? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 8:38 pm)
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