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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [kdhspyder] by mickeyrom
Jul 12, 2008 (6:47 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 12, 2008 3:53 am)

You could not be more right when you wrote that "we're doing it to ourselves" .
All you see on the highways is SUVs, Vans and trucks.As far back as the 60s when I was stationed in London UK,all you ever saw in people's driveways were tiny Morris Minors and their ilk. Can one imagine how much less oil we would use if NOBODY drove vehicles that had V8 or V6 engines and only had 4s?
Just recently one of our friends bought a new Chrysler station wagon,I forget what it's called...my wife asked if she got good gas mileage. The lady replied.."no,but it looked good".This with gas at $4.19 in our town.
I am retired and living on a fixed income, so buying a hybrid is not an option. Thank the deity that we have a car that will get at least 30MPG highway.(KIA Optima 2.4).I wonder how the people in Japan and in Europe do it with gas at 8-10 bucks a gallon. I cannot even imagine that. That means an average fill-up would cost as much as a $100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .By next year, we will be nostagically remembering the good "ole" days of $4 gas.
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Is Chrysler comitting corporate suicide? by mickeyrom
Jul 12, 2008 (6:52 am)
Of all the auto makers,only Chrysler has no real economy cars. The only new vehicles that they have come up with recently have been SUVs.Both are large and basically...gas guzzlers. How will they survive in todays market?
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Re: Is Chrysler comitting corporate suicide? [mickeyrom] by steve_ HOST
Jul 12, 2008 (6:57 am)

Replying to: mickeyrom (Jul 12, 2008 6:52 am)

Check out these discussions:
 
Why don't GM, Chrysler & Ford build high MPG vehicles?
 
Chrysler Needs To Turn It Around (especially the most recent post)
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [snakeweasel] by oldfarmer50
Jul 12, 2008 (11:40 am)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 11, 2008 1:50 pm)

"...Let's put the blame where it really is ok..."
 
I put the blame on all you dead-beats. Back in the early 80's when I took a look at the 10% and higher mortgages I said "to hell with banks".
 
I built my house myself as money became available. Took me two years but I never paid a cent in interest.
 
Now I have enough money to afford to be as poor as I am.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [imidazol97] by oldfarmer50
Jul 12, 2008 (11:47 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 11, 2008 5:12 pm)

"....Now some of those loans are worthless..."
 
NOW some of those loans are worthless? My guess would be they were all worthless from the start. That's just extortion by these groups.
 
Only in America.
 
Did you know that if you buy property in Mexico as a foreigner you have no legal claim to it? The former owner can take it back and have you thrown in jail if you resist. This has happened to some stupid Americans already.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [oldfarmer50] by gagrice
Jul 12, 2008 (11:57 am)

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 12, 2008 11:47 am)

Did you know that if you buy property in Mexico as a foreigner you have no legal claim to it?
 
There are many parts of Mexico where a US citizen can and do own property. Where it gets sticky is within 25 miles of the coast. Then you are basically buying from the bank that holds the title and you pay a small lease per year. There are now big coastal developments that you can buy with American Title Insurance policy. They are usually in conjunction with a large hotel chain and you are buying lots on their property. Yes there have been cases of people buying land building homes and the courts seizing them and returning to the original owner. It is definitely buyer beware.
 
Living in Mexico as a retired person can relieve much of the gas pains. The rest of your cost of living should be lower also. Places like Mazatlan and Guadalajara have huge US populations. Just don't plan on working down there. You will be required to show your monthly income to be allowed to stay. Many places are like paradise.
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Re: [tedebear] by oldfarmer50
Jul 12, 2008 (2:19 pm)

Replying to: tedebear (Jul 11, 2008 8:12 pm)

"...I noticed it went back up..."
 
Funny, in my area (New York State) my local station was up to $4.15 for RUG. Over the past week it went down to $4.09.
 
I have to say my area must be filled with back-yard oil wells. Every day I see a parade of SUVs with only the driver inside doing 10-15mph over the speed limit. Maybe it's because I set my cruise control at 62mph to save gas that I notice it now.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [gagrice] by oldfarmer50
Jul 12, 2008 (2:29 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 12, 2008 11:57 am)

"...Where it gets sticky is within 25 miles of the coast..."
 
Why would anyone want to live in Mexico if you didn't have an ocean view? The Mexicans don't even want to live there. That's why so many are leaving.
 
"...Living in Mexico as a retired person can relieve much of the gas pains..."
 
Yes, if your car will run on low octane gas. If I was going to retire to another country I would pick Poland. I hear the US dollar still has some clout there and the Polish Ham is supose to be great.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [oldfarmer50] by steve_ HOST
Jul 12, 2008 (3:07 pm)

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 12, 2008 2:29 pm)

Poland used to be a big destination for US retirees but I haven't much about it lately.
 
Hard to beat San Miguel de Allende although all the US residents there have caused the property values to go through the roof. Colonial hill town with a great climate not near the coast.
 
While you go check it out we'll take a vacation in here too, at least until crude pops $175.

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