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Weekend plans by michaell
Jul 11, 2008 (5:02 am)
My wife and I, and another couple, are traveling to Steamboat Springs this weekend for the Balloon Festival. It's about 180 miles from our town to Steamboat, but each couple is taking their own car - we're taking our VUE and the other couple have the new style Santa Fe.
 
We figure it'll be two tanks of gas for the weekend - about $100. The local station here in town raised prices over the 4th of July weekend and RUG is now at $3.95/gal. I'm almost certain it will be over $4/gal where we're going - the mountain towns in Colorado are always more expensive than the urban areas.
 
To offset the price of the gas, we're staying at an Inn that has a kitchenette so we can prepare some of our meals and avoid going out to restaurants.
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What $4/gallon gas buys... by lemko
Jul 11, 2008 (5:27 am)
From the Philadelphia newspaper:
 
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080711_One_Last_Thing__U_S__citizens__g- as_money_fueling_Mideast_s_boom.html
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [lemko] by avalon02wh
Jul 11, 2008 (6:45 am)

Replying to: lemko (Jul 11, 2008 5:27 am)

More disinformation from the general press. Most of U.S. oil imports do not come from the Mideast.
 
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imp- orts/current/import.html
 
Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
 
YTD 2008, Middle East, Other
CANADA ---- 1846
SAUDI ARABIA 1519 ----
MEXICO ---- 1471
NIGERIA ---- 1089
VENEZUELA ---- 1070
IRAQ 693 ----
ANGOLA ---- 556
ALGERIA ---- 495
BRAZIL ---- 174
KUWAIT 218 ----
ECUADOR ---- 200
COLOMBIA ---- 100
CHAD ---- 76
RUSSIA ---- 137
LIBYA ---- 56
Total 2430 7270
 
About 25% of the imports are from the Middle East.
 
The writer goes on to say; "All this adds up to a decline in our standard of living and a huge write-down of American wealth. "
 
Yeah, and we are doing it to ourselves. We are all making selfish decisions. The people in the M.E. are not putting a gun to our head telling us to buy that vehicle that gets 13 mpg.
 
This is another example of how individuals will make decisions to a large degree in their own self interest. Yet, we complain bitterly if the government tries to impose a CAFE standard, increase the gasoline tax, or suggest we conserve... Didn't Phil Gramm just say "We've sort of become a nation of whiners."
 
Indeed.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [avalon02wh] by gagrice
Jul 11, 2008 (7:06 am)

Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 11, 2008 6:45 am)

Thank you for correcting the error. So many just think all the oil comes from one spigot. We also get a lot of refined product from the EU that has a surplus of gasoline. Too bad they use so much diesel. Not sure how much refined product comes down from Canada as well.
 
Didn't Phil Gramm just say "We've sort of become a nation of whiners."
 
Yes he did and the Left was not happy. So McCain had to distance himself from another friend. Seems when politicians tell the truth the media do not want to hear it.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [gagrice] by imidazol97
Jul 11, 2008 (7:30 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 11, 2008 7:06 am)

Gramm was right. We complain about things and want government to fix it for us--free because it's from the gov'nmt. $500,000 mortgage on $60,000 salary--no problem. Oooops, interest rate went up; complain and maybe gov'nmnt will give me my house free.
 
Someone recently said we're in a mental recession. For most of us we are afraid of spending so we hold back. We also are told by the media relentlessly how bad it is. So we haven't been spending (me and my spouse and son) like we normally would. We are impacting the others who have lost jobs.
 
So we're currently shopping for carpet and a third car again.
 
If it follows the Bush 1 pattern the economy will be terrible (not starting to improve) through the election and soon as a Democrat (Clinton) is elected the media will start soft talking and tell how wonderful the outlook is becoming.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [imidazol97] by fintail
Jul 11, 2008 (7:34 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 11, 2008 7:30 am)

We complain because the banks who pay souless coward Gramm's meal ticket allowed people with a 60K income to buy a 500K house, and now we are all paying for it.
 
Liberal media conspiracy at work again?
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [fintail] by gagrice
Jul 11, 2008 (8:05 am)

Replying to: fintail (Jul 11, 2008 7:34 am)

I think if you dig deep enough into that mortgages to those that should not have them, it was just as many Democrats pushing for it as Republicans. Gramm is doing what most do when they leave Congress. They become lobbyist. That way they can still have lunch with their old buddies and write it off.
 
Did you see who he beat in his first bid for the Senate. Our friend Ron Paul.
 
I say get rid of em all. I will vote for NO incumbent.
 
Unless they promise to sell me gas for under 2 bucks
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [gagrice] by jae5
Jul 11, 2008 (9:28 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 11, 2008 8:05 am)

"...I think if you dig deep enough into that mortgages to those that should not have them, it was just as many Democrats pushing for it as Republicans..."
 
I'm in total agreement; this seems to get lost repeatedly. Dems blaming Repubs and vice-versa when all were drinking from the fountain of false wealth and gluttony.
 
Whatever happened to "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."? Just keeps ringing in my ears and I wasn't even born when Kennedy made the speech.
 
Sorry for the side-track.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 11, 2008 (10:07 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 11, 2008 8:05 am)

Both sides let the banks buy their souls...and nobody will dare go after the banks, as they have had reigns on the American national direction since the Fed was created.
 
Gramm has no right to be so sanctimonious and loud. Get rid of them in many ways.
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Re: What $4/gallon gas buys... [fintail] by fezo
Jul 11, 2008 (11:48 am)

Replying to: fintail (Jul 11, 2008 10:07 am)

I accept Gramm's thought that we whine too much but the man is everything that is wrong with the country. Bought and paid for many times over. This is the author of the Enron loophole so when you are paying $4 for your gallon of gas rest assured a good buck or two of that is thanks to Phil Gramm.

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